AMD Zen 3 processors with 3D V-Cache in early 2022, then Zen 4 later that year with PCIe 5.0 and DDR5.
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AlmondMan
Maybe we just don't need progress that is this fast and incremental? What have we really gained from 11 generations of Intel's Core CPUs that we wouldn't have gained from 5 generations in the same time period? A bunch of e-waste?
asturur
That is why i specified `a gamer's dream`. You buy a cpu/gpu, you stick to it 3 years, knowing that nothing is going to beat it for 3 years, and then a decent upgrade. I know things do not work in this way, because of how the market works, but if pcs were hardware stable as consoles, we would be happier. There is a moment in your life in which you enjoy swapping hardware like crazy, but then it wears out, you just need to switch on the pc to do things or play.
We need/want great software, not faster hardware incrementally.
asturur
We don't know, probably not. But maybe at that point the 5800x is the second choice and is more affordable/available?
fantaskarsef
Oh well, another year to wait...
mackintosh
Nothing wrong with that. It took me forever to jump off the i7-980X. At least 5 years, and even then I still didn't feel I had the need to.
fantaskarsef
I do see CPU limitations at 1440p with my CPU. So yeah, upgrading would make sense, but yeah... will have to wait and hope the rig stays alive long enough.
kapu
If someone has RKL or Zen3 has no reason to upgrade to Alder, i rather wait for Zen3+/Zen4 and see what happens . If someone is on older generations alder lake can be very tempting.
Undying
E.xactly. Even 1440p max details shows little improvement. 2700x is fine unless you play very high refresh rate cs go.
Embra
There are plenty of three year CPUs that game just fine today.
Unless your chasing fps, which even then depends on the type of gaming you do.
H83
The new Ryzen with 3d cache seems promising but the release of Ryzen4 seems so close to it that i wonder if it´s going to be a decent upgrade for anyone...
mackintosh
If it's a drop-in replacement, it might be an interesting proposition for anyone with a Zen 2 that may be unwilling or unable to replace their entire system. If it performs on par with Alder Lake, it will make for an affordable holdover. I don't see anyone with a Zen 3 upgrading to this though, wouldn't make sense for what most likely is a 10-20% gain. Not with both Zen 4 and Raptor Lake due in Q4.
That said, who knows what the market is going to be like in Q1 2022. For all we know, AL may suffer from limited availability, prohibitive pricing or simply won't deliver on expectations.
asturur
my i7-990x is still my secondary machine and still OK to play wow.
nevcairiel
You can of course just decide to not buy it. Thats up to you.
Ryu5uzaku
Only reason I am thinking about possibly getting Zen3+ is because of work. For gaming my 3900x is moooooore then enough. With 5120x1440 res I am anyway bound by my GPU. And well if game needs fps I get enough anyway on this.
Undying
It makes more sense to use that 3900x for work and get a zen+ cpu for gaming.
Ryu5uzaku
Nah I was thinking about going for 64gigs of ram also. And 16-core one. Virtualizing you know.
tunejunky
once you do there is no turning back 😎
sykozis
Depending on pricing and compatibility, I may have to pickup one or 2 of these Zen3+ chips.....
Embra
My 3900x is great for gaming. Very smooth.
Agonist
It did hold it back. A lot. And that was at 3840x1080 and 2700x at 4.3 overclock.
Were talking easily 30 FPS avg min boost in cpu bound.
Depending on your res and refresh rate it wont be bad. I had my 2700x in my x570 for a bit with a 6800xt.
