By the measure of CU, this would have 8. Also, long pipeline, BAAAAAAAD!

There is still no graphics card can bottleneck a PCI-E x16 v2.0 then why you need v4 ??:puke2: I think you dont have any idea about PCI-E and its bandwidth......

What is your problem? Stop flaming. I was correcting someone that said 3.0 wasn't even out yet when it has been. If you seriously think 4.0 will not be needed in the path graphics cards are going soon, do some research. Maxwell is going to be pushing 2.0 big time, especially concerning what other add-in cards people are using such as SSD's. So go puke on yourself instead.

For all of you not understanding how bandwidth on PCI-e works, take your 3.0 port and a high-end 3.0 GPU, drop it from 16 lanes down to 8 and run benchmarks between both. You likely won't see a difference (maybe 1 or 2 FPS). Now, drop it down to 4 lanes. You might lose a few FPS here and there, but the game should still be playable. The only reason for increasing bandwidth per-lane is for the PCI-e 1x devices, such as TV tuners, SSDs, Thunderbolt cards, or USB 3.x cards. Otherwise, we don't even need the bandwidth of 3.0 for modern GPUs. Assuming PCIe 4.0 will continue the trend of doubling bandwidth, one lane will be equally as fast as 8 lanes from the first generation, which is good enough to run most mid-range GPUs. It won't be long until something like the Titan can run off a 1x slot.

Exactly. Less lanes more bandwidth. Its minimizing things is all. Also just like you said the more plugged in the more bandwidth is going to be used. It's not just graphics cards that eat it up.

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Just wanted to say you really butchered how that meme is supposed to be worded.

I would hope so. As far as I'm aware, we haven't even saturated 2.0 yet. Aside from some SSDs, I don't really understand the point of releasing PCIe 3.0. AMD already has several 16 core Opterons. I'm guessing their current generation is Steamroller based, and I figure this new 16 core will also only be an Opteron. AMD has stated before they're not targeting the high-end/enthusiast desktop PC market anymore and that's exactly what a 16 core would be classified as. I don't see a reason for a 16 core entering the desktop market anyway - most people still can't put good use to an i7. But, Opterons are still relatively cheap. You could probably make a pretty good desktop computer out of an Opteron system as long as you expect the motherboard you get likely lack Crossfire/SLi support, built-in audio, and a slew of USB ports.

Because you can run more devices at higher speed using fewer lanes.

Wow! AMD is still trying to make new CPUs!?!

Nothing to see here!

As someone who owns the FX-6300, I won't be signing that petition. Steamroller seems to be the last of the "fixes" for the Bulldozer technology and will hopefully be the end of the line for DDR3. I'm thinking the amount of changes in SR is just a little too much for older chipsets to handle. This is a problem because some AM3 boards work with BD and PD AM3+ CPUs, while I get the impression some AM3+ boards don't all support PD, and it's already a headache for noobs to know which board works with what CPU. It'll also be a pain for mobo devs to update the BIOS. If people want high-end, they're going to shoot for Intel. If they want power efficiency, they still want Intel. The APUs are the only products AMD has that are actually getting them money, and while SR would make an ideal AM3+ CPU, it just isn't worth their time. I'm sure if they make a socket AM4 with Excavator, we might see some interesting results. What I think AMD needs to do right now is release an A10 with 6 cores instead of 4. 6 seems to be the sweet spot in your average multitasking system these days, where most games only utilize 4 but the other 2 cores can be used for other tasks.

I think you mean releasing PCIe 4.0. We've had 3.0 for a few years now, and I'm running 3.0 x8/x8 in SLI now. Intel has plans on releasing 4.0 this year or next. I thought I read somewhere by 2015 at the latest. I saw 780's running in a x8/x8 2.0 rig and were slower in benches and gaming. 4.0 may be needed for the super enthusiasts looking to push all that bandwidth. There are already bigger and badder cards than Maxwell planned. I myself am not upgrading though.

I think what he meant was that he doesn't understand why PCIe 3.0 was released in the first place, when 2.0 hadn't been saturated.