Now that's true high end. I laugh at 5900/5950 owners who've thought they're king of the universe.

itpro:

Now that's true high end. I laugh at 5900/5950 owners who've thought they're king of the universe.

because......hmmm .... nobody could predict this or the 3990x even existed ? oO

Venix:

because......hmmm .... nobody could predict this or the 3990x even existed ? oO

I'm sure people bought the most expensive they can and never believed a threadripper will be indeed released at 21-22 or before next generation of zen. Threadrippers in the past released the same year as consumer ryzen series. So the prosumer bought 59xx series. AMD was tricky and shadow played everyone. 2 years difference to milk them didn't happen with 1000,2000,3000. Victims bought the old 39xx tr series instead of 59xx r9 for example.

itpro:

Now that's true high end. I laugh at 5900/5950 owners who've thought they're king of the universe.

F-That, I think that xbox-air-purifier-trashcan and PS5 owners who have paid upteen £/€/$ will be the ones crying at xmas this year. I soooooo nearly upgraded 19/20 and am glad I didn't, for a multiple reasons, but now, whoah, more cores and threads rule harder than Queen Mary

itpro:

I'm sure people bought the most expensive they can and never believed a threadripper will be indeed released at 21-22 or before next generation of zen. Threadrippers in the past released the same year as consumer ryzen series. So the prosumer bought 59xx series. AMD was tricky and shadow played everyone. 2 years difference to milk them didn't happen with 1000,2000,3000. Victims bought the old 39xx tr series instead of 59xx r9 for example.

They were the kings for a good long while, in fact still be for a few months. Nobody ever buys a PC component believing it will remain the best forever. Anyone following the tech news a little bit knows it would have been useless for AMD to release the new Threadripper any sooner. It would have been just a paper launch. They couldn't even manufacture the existing components as much as they needed due to TSMC being more than fully booked. What use would it be to add Threadrippeds into the mix? It's a marginal product anyway, even if the profit margin is very nice.

@itpro What on Earth are you on about? Anyone who had at least a passing interest in the HEDT market knew Zen 3 Threadrippers were coming. We just didn't know precisely when. Most people who actually need TRs are still waiting. Those for whom the 5950X was good enough upgraded a year ago, and the chip has most likely already paid for itself by now. Unless you're an enthusiast with bottomless pockets, you have no business shopping for a 5950X or a Threadripper anyway.

itpro:

I'm sure people bought the most expensive they can and never believed a threadripper will be indeed released at 21-22 or before next generation of zen.

Of course they did. Sometimes people need a solution straight away not in a years time.

itpro:

Now that's true high end. I laugh at 5900/5950 owners who've thought they're king of the universe.

I don't think any 5950X owner would think that, seeing as the 3990X already exists. It may be a generation behind but it has so much more threads, PCIe lanes, and memory channels that a 5950X isn't going to obsolete it so easily. In any case, we don't know the prices. The 16-core model very well could be more expensive than the 5950X. If you don't need all the PCIe lanes (which most people don't) then you're not gaining much.

mackintosh:

@itpro What on Earth are you on about? Anyone who had at least a passing interest in the HEDT market knew Zen 3 Threadrippers were coming. We just didn't know precisely when. Most people who actually need TRs are still waiting. Those for whom the 5950X was good enough upgraded a year ago, and the chip has most likely already paid for itself by now. Unless you're an enthusiast with bottomless pockets, you have no business shopping for a 5950X or a Threadripper anyway.

I had ASUS ROG Zenith II Extreme + 3960x and upgraded to MSI x570 Creation + 5950x But i honestly right now im waiting for Adler Lake, if its true and the benchmarks that showed it beating 5950x with only 8 cores, ill be going back home to Intel Owning AMD makes me uncomfortable. Also ill never buy TR again, biggest money waste, mainly because they didnt released new CPUs, so the more time passes the lower the price for second hand market, if i kept my 3960x and waited until now, i imagine losing 50% of its value Also I couldn't use my PC because i would new that ZEN3 exists and its so much better and im with such expensive system that ahem slower then 5950x in many tasks and especially video games and emulation

I still want TR zen 3 on my x399. Amd fooled us x399 owners 🙁

itpro:

2 years difference to milk them didn't happen with 1000,2000,3000. Victims bought the old 39xx tr series instead of 59xx r9 for example.

What are you going on about? I feel like you have this whole idea of what people thought or did not think balled up in your head and somehow being a true statement. No one knew what was going on with threadripper 5000, unless they, or you, are AMD, how would they? And why would you think someone would buy the "most expensive they can" and somehow that would be a ryzen 5000? Threadripper 3990X anyone? As to your statement that they released threadrippers in the past in the same year, that's really subjective, as in "same year", what does that mean? Same physical arbitrary year? or within 12 months? Because if you think for some reason people thought threadripper wasn't coming out for the 5000 series because it didn't get released in the "same physical year" as the 5000 series CPU, that's a you think, no one else. Ryzen 1000 March Ryzen 2000 April Ryzen 3000 July Ryzen 5000 November No threadripper CPU has released 1-2 months after the consumer Ryzen CPU, so your statement of "Threadrippers in the past released the same year as consumer ryzen series. So the prosumer bought 59xx series." Doesn't hold any grounds. "physical year" is an arbitrary number. There's just so much strange about everything you said i just don't even know what to do with it.

itpro:

2 years difference to milk them didn't happen with 1000,2000,3000. Victims bought the old 39xx tr series instead of 59xx r9 for example.

.... Ryzen 5000 .... hasn't been out for a year yet buddy. ....... seriously wtf are you going on about?