AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D is 6% faster in gaming than Core i9-13900K

tailspin

2023-02-24 23:48

I think the best thing about this result being 6% faster than Intel is the POWER CONSUMPTION & HEAT. BET YOU IT IS WAAAAAAAYYYY LOWER THAN intel 13k chip! TAKE MY MONEY! $$$ 🙂

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Aura89

2023-02-24 23:52

barbacot:

To people saying "16% faster than the Ryzen 9 7950X": you missed the part with "up to". And with "up to" and "These are official AMD benchmarks" taken in consideration the whole picture is not so sunny for them. My wife has a 3950X and I am waiting for these reviews to decide what to buy between the 13900k, 7950X or 7950X3D but right now I am more inclined towards 7950X only because I hate the hybrid arch Intel nonsense otherwise it would have been 13900k all the way. 7950X3D doesn't look good if these are AMD official benchmarks.

Nothing here in this thread/post states "up to" 16% faster, average 16% faster, yes, but not up to. This may come out wrong, but maybe make sure what you're saying before you try and correct what other people are saying.

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Reardan

2023-02-25 00:13

tty8k:

@Reardan Calm your procreating spastic tits or your veins will pop in your head.

Sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you telling all of us how much you enjoy your i5, how it's configured and how fast it is an in a thread about AMD's new CPU, please go on can you tell us about your SSD or maybe the color of your fans?

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schilperoordbas

2023-02-25 00:54

Reardan:

Sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you telling all of us how much you enjoy your i5, how it's configured and how fast it is an in a thread about AMD's new CPU, please go on can you tell us about your SSD or maybe the color of your fans?

Dude, chill out. This is a tech forum, not a streaming chat.

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abula

2023-02-25 01:30

So if the 7950X3D is 6% faster than the 13900k, and the 13900KS is 5% faster than the 13900K, then both 7950X3D and 13900KS will be a wash no?

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Michael Lang

2023-02-25 01:53

Yeah, I think my 13900k@5.8 with tuned 7400 memory and 4090 would hold its own. Granted at 7400 there isn't a whole lot of wiggle room as CPU pressure and other things start to come into play. It seems to be very anal as to what timings I try to adjust. Its actually a 7600 but 7600 isn't fully stable and I'm lazy lol. It is very exhausting. I only see like a 10fps avg difference in something like Returnal from say 6600 c30 vs 7400 c32 tuned.

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Michael Lang

2023-02-25 01:55

abula:

So if the 7950X3D is 6% faster than the 13900k, and the 13900KS is 5% faster than the 13900K, then both 7950X3D and 13900KS will be a wash no?

I would say yeah it would be pretty close and flip flop back and forth. Also depending on the game the 13900k beats the 13900ks so they all 3 are a wash in my opinion.

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Michael Lang

2023-02-25 02:11

tailspin:

I think the best thing about this result being 6% faster than Intel is the POWER CONSUMPTION & HEAT. BET YOU IT IS WAAAAAAAYYYY LOWER THAN intel 13k chip! TAKE MY MONEY! $$$ 🙂

13900k isnt as bad as most Youtube superstar make it out to be lol

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Fierce Guppy

2023-02-25 02:50

Both flagship CPUs are extremely good imo, but I have to consider the options years from now for replacing the CPU without having to buy a new motherboard. AM4 has been around for far longer than socket 2011v3, meaning that in 5-6 years I can bung a new high-end CPU into an AM5 socket while support for the LGA1700 will have ended years prior.

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user1

2023-02-25 04:54

abula:

So if the 7950X3D is 6% faster than the 13900k, and the 13900KS is 5% faster than the 13900K, then both 7950X3D and 13900KS will be a wash no?

A technical wash, however I suspect that the worst case for the 7950x3d will be closer to the 13900ks, than the best case for the 13900ks, IE, if an application likes the extra cache , it might be significantly faster . where as in workloads that favor the intel chip, the performance shortfall of the 7950x3d will be marginal.

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Aura89

2023-02-25 05:00

user1:

A technical wash, however I suspect that the worst case for the 7950x3d will be closer to the 13900ks, than the best case for the 13900ks, IE, if an application likes the extra cache , it might be significantly faster . where as in workloads that favor the intel chip, the performance shortfall of the 7950x3d will be marginal.

Given the leaked performance numbers this seems to be the case. In this article alone, you have the 7950x3D doing anywhere from less performing then the 13900k, to 26.9% faster then the 13900k.

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nizzen

2023-02-25 08:07

GarrettL:

What is the peak power draw of the 13900k compared to the 7950x? Effienciecy should be taken into consideration as well.

In gaming?

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nizzen

2023-02-25 08:13

I can't wait to compare 7950x with "max" tuned memory vs 13900k with "max" tuned memory (8400c34)

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barbacot

2023-02-25 08:59

Aura89:

Nothing here in this thread/post states "up to" 16% faster, average 16% faster, yes, but not up to. This may come out wrong, but maybe make sure what you're saying before you try and correct what other people are saying.

Why so serious? It's just rumors and speculations now so we can afford to rant a little no?

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pegasus1

2023-02-25 10:21

People arguing over nothing more than an unsubstantiated rumour.

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TLD LARS

2023-02-25 10:23

nizzen:

I can't wait to compare 7950x with "max" tuned memory vs 13900k with "max" tuned memory (8400c34)

13900k at 8400 C34 is only possible with super highend mainboards and really good silicon 13900k/ks chips, even professional top 10 overclockers have given up reaching 8000 with unlucky 13900k/ks bought in retail. Luck, binning or Intel prebinned review samples are needed to reach those speeds reliably. Fun to see but unrealistic to expect and not a fair comparison in any way.

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Dragam1337

2023-02-25 10:26

Horus-Anhur:

Only 16% above the 7950X. That's not much. For Zen4 owners, it might be better to just tune the memory and save good chunk of cash.

Can't really go by the average though, as lightweight games pull down the average. The same was seen with the 5800x3d where it actually performed slightly worse than 5800x in games like csgo, cause csgo is lightweight enough to fit in the cache of the 5800x. The heavier the game, the bigger the advantage the 3d chips will have.

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Dragam1337

2023-02-25 10:29

Horus-Anhur:

The X3D parts seem good for people who don't know how to overclock and tune memory. Non-overclockers, might be able to just stick a 5600 MT/s kit and still have great performance. But for people that know their stuff about OC, like you, a 13900 will be the better choice.

13900 might be able to be oc'ed to higher average fps, but the main advantage of the 3d chips are that cause you have the entire shaders running in the cache, you have much less frametime varience on the cpu - aka less stutter. Imo that is more important than slightly higher average fps.

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nizzen

2023-02-25 11:25

TLD LARS:

13900k at 8400 C34 is only possible with super highend mainboards and really good silicon 13900k/ks chips, even professional top 10 overclockers have given up reaching 8000 with unlucky 13900k/ks bought in retail. Luck, binning or Intel prebinned review samples are needed to reach those speeds reliably. Fun to see but unrealistic to expect and not a fair comparison in any way.

I ran 6200c28 on Asus x670 Hero with 7950x. Pretty much everyone with Asus Apex z790 and 13900k can run 8000 very easy. Even some with z790 Hero running 7800 and 8000mhz 🙂 Max on both plattforms is what I like to compare. Name the top 10 overclockers that didn't manage 8000mhz on 13900ks 😉 Maybe I need to run 5600mhz on 7950x3d to be more realistic

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nizzen

2023-02-25 11:27

Dragam1337:

13900 might be able to be oc'ed to higher average fps, but the main advantage of the 3d chips are that cause you have the entire shaders running in the cache, you have much less frametime varience on the cpu - aka less stutter. Imo that is more important than slightly higher average fps.

High ddr5 performance is helping alot for minimum fps, just like extra cache 🙂