AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT Gets Geekbenched, 5% Faster than 3900X
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0blivious
Do people not realize that most people don't actually want to overclock their CPUs, and not everyone already has a Ryzen 1700x/2600x/3700x? These are better and faster than what was available before. Is it worth it? Up to the buyer. This release also made the previous non "XT" versions cheaper for us (enthusiasts who whine about $20 differences for price/performance but spend $230 on case lights). What does AMD get for that? grief.
What exactly is wrong with these other than they aren't the 4700x yet? Does AMD have to cater soley to the enthusiast market? It's a minor refresh at the same prices the originals sold at.
kanenas
kanenas
Neo Cyrus
Bloodduty
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if that is stock 3900XT something wrong as my 3900X at stock and running faster and with lower boost clock and i have not even water cooled it yet
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Neo Cyrus
Bloodduty
Fender178
waltc3
All AMD did is to add a few more SKUs as demand is strong for these CPUs, apparently. Had nothing at all to do with Zen 3 being late and all of that related gossip. Intel silently adds SKUs religiously...;) You know, one SKU being clocked 10MHz higher than another, etc.
tunejunky
If I need a build right now I would buy one no questions asked.
My opinion however is that AMD is pulling a Nvidia in cpu's...last breath of current silicon tweaked and/or binned. Like ti's
schmidtbag
bobblunderton
Those on 1xxx Ryzen, grab a non-xt for a discount for an already-great processor capable of whatever you need. Those with 1xxx or 2xxx can also wait another two weeks and grab a nice 3900xt / 3800xt, for an acceptable boost (but not really night/day if already having 2xxx series).
I will take 5% and works-with-current-boards (this is what the community wanted and hence went bonkers over possibly not having!!!), over nothing any day. That still beats the modest 2% we were getting from intel before Ryzen showed up and peed in intel's Cheerios.
These are yields from process refinement and also from stuff that was binned high for higher-end HEDT stuff that didn't sell as well, and stuff that could have gone EPYC now that most of the glut of contracts are fulfilled (though they're still moving them quite nicely, not as much as when it first hit obviously). So now we consumers get a little extra cake here.
For what I do with content creation, 5% would translate to hardly noticeable. However, if one is upgrading from a 3600 or smaller series chip (or older series), to something like a 3900XT, YES you WILL notice the difference without needing an FPS counter - especially the older series.
My only question is... Where's the 3950XT AMD??? I really would love one. I am sure though the answer is in the fact that this 7nm process is pretty much maxed out and pushed as far as it can legitimately go (barring Nuclear-class amounts of heat and power use).
Can't always have everything your way, though. Very happy with my stock 3700x, compared to my old hot pig of a 4790k that couldn't OC to save it's hide, and had to be delidded and fed liquid metal with a 100% designer air-cooling unit on it, just to NOT overheat at stock 4.4ghz...I don't miss my Haswell one bit!
No fussing with overclocking, don't need super-duper high-end 200~300$ or more motherboard, don't need super-duper fancy cooling because 7nm will stay pretty cool/quiet even with the stock heatsink and fan in a decent sound-deadened case (on that topic - I've never even heard the chip set fan, it makes no noise, I would never even know if it's actually spinning or not). Don't need to take processor apart with delid tool and then fuss with those annoying LGA socket pins trying not to bend them. I like this better. Maybe some who love trying to make a good overclock and get a good dice roll on their chip and get a super-duper fast albeit energy-munching PC, will miss it on Ryzen - however - I don't miss the room heating up to 80+ F every-day.
I don't see where there's room to complain, really. Unless you must get every ounce of 144fps in Fortnite or Counter Strike, you'll be fine with the Ryzen setup and it will cost quite a bit less. However, for any real men who are legit gun owners, we don't need multiplayer shooty-shooty, we go to the range or out hunting in the woods for an afternoon to do that stuff.
I am anxious to see what Vermeer / Renoir is bringing to desktop though (or whatever the next generation of Ryzen will be called).
This processor release is to keep product moving, since they have a lot of it; and to keep pace with intel's latest release so there isn't too much separation in performance.
HINT: This is COMPETITION, be happy, be thankful that we have it; or you can go quietly back to your hole without such a fuss and enjoy your quad-core i7.
Mundosold
wavetrex
The only reason XT line would make sense is if they can somehow do faster than 1900 Mhz IF (1933 on some chips more rare than actual rainbow unicorns)
Let's say they could do 2000 - such a feat would reduce inter-core latency by another 5%, and with the right memory this would be noticeable in certain games, even to the point of beating Intel K chips
But I doubt it ... since not even 3950X can, and that one has the best binned dies.
But I'm sure there are plenty of people without that highly praised "common sense" that will pay through their nose for that 0.1Ghz.
Neo Cyrus
PCJack125
Ryu5uzaku
Fox2232
Mpampis
Guys, don't forget. Non-XT parts are still out there. The demand is still strong for them. If the XT parts offered better price to performace ratio, we'd call AMD stupid for disrupting the sales of their own products.
Undying
3900X costs 400Eur and its still available one should go with that. 3900XT is just there to make Intel life more miserable.