Mpampis:

The price is 620€ max. (699$ is about 612€, but that is rarely the street price. For example, nVidia said their RTX 2060 has an MSRP of 350$, but stores in Greece sell them for 500€+ which is crazy, considering you can actually get an RTX 2070 for 550€ if you're lucky)

US prices are without taxes, EU prices are always with taxes. So a direct conversion will never work. $699 might be 612€ today, but you can roughly add 20% for taxes on top of that, which puts it at 734.

AMD has already denied all of this https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_responds_to_radeon_vii_short_supply_rumours/1

While we don't report on production numbers externally, we will have products available via AIB partners and AMD.com at launch of Feb. 7, and we expect Radeon VII supply to meet demand from gamers.

SweenJM:

It does a bit. Weren't the 7990 coolers triple slot?

I dont think so. It was just one long ass card.

Mpampis:

Though I was not at all impressed when I saw the announcement, I would consider buying the card as I have a 144Hz widescreen monitor with Freesync and I kind of dislike nVidia's ways. But only if: I can find a compatible water block The benchmarks are really good The card is actually available when I manage to actually have the money, as it seems that not many cards will be produced. The price is 620€ max. (699$ is about 612€, but that is rarely the street price. For example, nVidia said their RTX 2060 has an MSRP of 350$, but stores in Greece sell them for 500€+ which is crazy, considering you can actually get an RTX 2070 for 550€ if you're lucky)

You know that Nvidia added compatibility for Free Sync now right? The only thing left in your reasoning is you don't like Nvidia now lol. And maybe just maybe your monitor isn't compatible but I bet it is. Availability might be interesting. Vega had major availability issues even before mining really went crazy on GPU pricing and availability.

Expect big markup on this card. Retailers are already licking their lips knowing that 5,000 cards will be available for the given time frame. I wouldn't be surprised to see this card selling for more like $800 or so.

nevcairiel:

US prices are without taxes, EU prices are always with taxes. So a direct conversion will never work. $699 might be 612€ today, but you can roughly add 20% for taxes on top of that, which puts it at 734.

Well, I did my research, and it seems it's actually a little bit more complex. You actually have to calculate the import price (which includes transport insurance and transport cost), add any special taxes on electronics, then see how much import tax has to be added (could be up to 150€ in Greece), which is directly related to the import price, and then add the VAT. so it's probably going to be closer to 950€. Frankly, this just isn't worth it.

I'm really not interested in cutted and low binned GPU. Give me the full chip.

schmidtbag:

No, that's what the RX 590 was. The Radeon 7s are sold because they're binned Firepros and don't know what else to do with them (which would explain the price point and weird memory size). It doesn't make sense why AMD would make these parts for any other reason. As I've said before - these GPUs are just placeholders for Navi. We're all probably going to forget these exist 2 years from now.

Close, binned MI50s.

prazola:

I'm really not interested in cutted and low binned GPU. Give me the full chip.

Want the full chip? Pony up a few thousand dollars for an MI50 Instinct card.

Denial:

FP64 is really only useful in some professional workloads. I think people here typically overstate it's importance. Prosumers doing content editing with photos/video/etc are still going to find that 16GB of HBM pretty nice.

And 1TB of memory bandwidth. The value is incredible if you do more than game on the desktop. Besides, to prevent this from being used for Scientific/AI/Machine learning, AMD will nerf the FP64 though it is said to still have higher FP64 than 2080/ti after gimping. It will also have PCIE 4.0 support removed. Only datacenter machine learning type functions can saturate the PCIE 3.0 bus today from a GPU standpoint. Who knows, one day AMD may unlock the full fp64 for those that buy this. The new NVIDIA high ends will come with 11GB, so why not 5 more with 1TBs bandwidth. It is a niche, but one well worth $600 if you can put it to use.

DrKeo:

Just wait for the 8GB edition, it will probably cost 550$ and will actually have some real value considering HBM2 is around 150$ per 8GB. I don't think anyone who isn't a content creator will actually buy this card.

The new NVIDIA high ends will come with 11GB, so why not 5 more with 1TBs bandwidth.

Undying:

Probably not. It will sell out until Navi replace it.

I'm buying one. Do I need it? No. I'm getting it just for the technology for the price. Nerd purchase. I also think someone will take advantage of that 16GB and 1TBs bandwidth, whether it's a game developer or Adobe Creative Suite.

Denial:

MI60*

The consensus seems to be they're binned MI50s not MI60s but in either case, it's a lot of expensive technology for $699 compared to the 2080/ti. The 2080s are just now being discounted to $699 depending on the make/model.

Loophole35:

MorganX Jesus dude multi-quote. The reference cooler looks like it is good and most reports from the CES were that it worked well.

Heard.

MorganX:

Want the full chip? Pony up a few thousand dollars for an MI50 Instinct card.

MI60*

Yup, just the one card I think. Space filler. Though I wonder if they might still have some tweeks done before launch.

MorganX Jesus dude multi-quote. The reference cooler looks like it is good and most reports from the CES were that it worked well.

These cards will sell out like hot cakes for content creators .

DW75:

There will not be an 8GB edition. If they do this, the memory bandwidth of the card will then be cut in half.

Spoiler: "I wonder if you have seen this:"

http://i67.tinypic.com/14dejr4.png

Hint: "Number of pins on each package". Available Bandwidth per each package.

Fox2232:

Spoiler: "I wonder if you have seen this:"

http://i67.tinypic.com/14dejr4.png

Hint: "Number of pins on each package". Available Bandwidth per each package.

So you are saying they could, but why would they?

Loophole35:

So you are saying they could, but why would they?

Cost. Maybe there will be few GPUs where enabling 60CUs is not an option. Then you get 56CUs, pair it with 4x 2GB HBM2. Priced at $600 and suddenly, it is more than competitive on gaming front.

siriq:

These cards will sell out like hot cakes for content creators .

Hahaha. Scalpers will buy all the cards who in return will sell them for 1000$+ to AMD fanboys. All content creators are using Nvidia GPUs because all serious rendering software is using CUDA. I don't know where this nonsense that AMD is good for content creators is coming from.

Glottiz:

Hahaha. Scalpers will buy all the cards who in return will sell them for 1000$+ to AMD fanboys. All content creators are using Nvidia GPUs because all serious rendering software is using CUDA. I don't know where this nonsense that AMD is good for content creators is coming from.

You will see it on the market. 😀

Well, reference only design such as what they have is fantastic. Also, being able to buy directly from AMD without a stupid markup or worse, mining markup, will be a good thing.

Glottiz:

Hahaha. Scalpers will buy all the cards who in return will sell them for 1000$+ to AMD fanboys. All content creators are using Nvidia GPUs because all serious rendering software is using CUDA. I don't know where this nonsense that AMD is good for content creators is coming from.

Doubtful. On the other hand, I would not be surprised if it is one per customer and nothing more.

dirthurts:

It seems pretty clear that 5000 is only for the initial release. More will come, sooner or later.

AMD has already debunked this number.