AMD CEO Lisa Su Says Zen 3-Based Ryzen 5000 Will Feature new heights Performance

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With no competition amd could get greedy. You guys noticed how 5700x isnt even mentioned anywhere just a 10c 5800x and 12c 5900x.
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Undying:

With no competition amd could get greedy. You guys noticed how 5700x isnt even mentioned anywhere just a 10c 5800x and 12c 5900x.
Wasn't the 5800X a 8C part? Did i miss a rumour?
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Goiur:

Wasn't the 5800X a 8C part? Did i miss a rumour?
Its a 10c part and 8c isnt even mentioned as far as i know. Its strange.
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kapu:

8 core 1 ccx boost 5.0 . ALL i need for gaming for next 5 years+.
I think I'll try to survive with my 3700X. I guess I could have waited until Zen 3, but I'm not regretting it.
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Undying:

Its a 10c part and 8c isnt even mentioned as far as i know. Its strange.
Here... Maybe I understand it wrong.
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Kaarme:

I think I'll try to survive with my 3700X. I guess I could have waited until Zen 3, but I'm not regretting it.
The 3700X is a beast. I have built 2 work PC's with these and some 3200mhz Ram. Really solid builds.
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Zen3 is more an upgrad for who is still on Zen/Zen+ if at all. If you are on high fps monitoir, because my 2700x can do 60fps fine.
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Undying:

Its a 10c part and 8c isnt even mentioned as far as i know. Its strange.
Hmm? The post by Cidious on page 1 says "5800X 8 core" ?
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It's strange that the GPU framerate is lower in Average, Normal and Heavy modes, when the CPU framerate is higher in all. Hope it's not just down to the AMD system having twice as much RAM.
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You all give too much importance on RAM speed when the difference is negligible. Just invest on the next tier CPU/GPU or save your money. I bought Ryzen 2600 August 2019 and paired it with 3333Mhz CL16. It's working 2933Mhz CL15 with zero complains, ready for an upgrade.
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Richard Nutman:

It's strange that the GPU framerate is lower in Average, Normal and Heavy modes, when the CPU framerate is higher in all. Hope it's not just down to the AMD system having twice as much RAM.
More likely Nvidia drivers.
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Silva:

You all give too much importance on RAM speed when the difference is negligible. Just invest on the next tier CPU/GPU or save your money. I bought Ryzen 2600 August 2019 and paired it with 3333Mhz CL16. It's working 2933Mhz CL15 with zero complains, ready for an upgrade.
DDR5 next yeat then 😀
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Im afraid AMD will push prices high as there will be no real competition ....
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kapu:

Im afraid AMD will push prices high as there will be no real competition ....
They will no doubt. If these benchmarks are real and 5800x really does crush 10900k chip that costs 550$ people are naive thinking it will cost 300$ like zen2 8 core.
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Undying:

They will no doubt. If these benchmarks are real and 5800x really does crush 10900k chip that costs 550$ people are naive thinking it will cost 300$ like zen2 8 core.
I don't think they will jack up prices by much, they still need market share. Besides, as it stands, zen CPUs are a lot cheaper to produce than intel's monolithic design, so by default AMD can practice lower prices and still have the same/better margins. And I'm not even factoring COVID's impact on economy and those CPUs being completely superfluous products. I'd say they might put a 20$~40$ more on each product stack, but that's pretty much the worst I think they would do right now. Zen 4 will probably be the architecture where they will start milking consumers, if Intel doesn't react.
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Ricardo:

I don't think they will jack up prices by much, they still need market share. Besides, as it stands, zen CPUs are a lot cheaper to produce than intel's monolithic design, so by default AMD can practice lower prices and still have the same/better margins. And I'm not even factoring COVID's impact on economy and those CPUs being completely superfluous products. I'd say they might put a 20$~40$ more on each product stack, but that's pretty much the worst I think they would do right now. Zen 4 will probably be the architecture where they will start milking consumers, if Intel doesn't react.
This^^.
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Francesco:

150W would be an huge increase compared to the 105 of 3900x. Hopefully this is not going to be the case, I don't want AMD to throw efficency out of the window to gain every bit of performance like NVIDIA did with 3000s.
*sigh* power consumption isn't the same thing as efficiency, and TDP isn't the same thing as the actual power consumption. Although processors almost always become less efficient at higher clock speeds, if you don't like the extra power draw, just lower the clock speeds. The supposed 15% IPC is still substantial.
Undying:

With no competition amd could get greedy. You guys noticed how 5700x isnt even mentioned anywhere just a 10c 5800x and 12c 5900x.
AMD might have the better product but they still have a long way to go to beat Intel. In the perspective of business, AMD is catching up, but they're not winning. Regardless, I do believe the 5000 series will be more expensive.
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Undying:

They will no doubt. If these benchmarks are real and 5800x really does crush 10900k chip that costs 550$ people are naive thinking it will cost 300$ like zen2 8 core.
Zen2/3 are dirty cheap to make and already AMD had huge margins. Given TSMC official defect rate, AMD had 93.5% yield of the chiplets by end of last year at N7 and N7P, so each wafer produces ~749 good chiplets, 50 partial, 52 bad. With official single wafer cost $9346 means each chiplet costs to AMD around $12.5. The I/O is even cheaper and so is the tray. So we are looking for total BOM cost no more than $120 at the highest possible including packaging and cooler. 3900X/3950X/3960X/3970X are the true money makers though with each additional chiplet been sold over 2000% it's cost and AMD even makes big margins on the 3300X. Nah, AMD will be stupid to lose market share to Intel. That $200 you propose can be gained by selling a second 5800X let alone a 5900X or 5950X which profits are even higher. There are many thousands stuck on 7700K/8600K/8700K because neither 9000 nor 10000 series were any significant upgrade. Zen 3 is though. To put it plainly, AMD smells blood and going for the final kill, especially since Intel cannot keep up with their monolithic dies and goes back to glued quad cores for the upcoming 11th series.

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