interesting

That's my Christmas present for myself., new MOBO/RAM/CPU.

Oh I'm sure it will be faster... ... what I'm not sure is, will it be sufficiently faster to worth changing the entire damn computer ... Cpu/Mobo/Memory$$$ ? Probably not. I'll be fine with what I have now until 2024, unless it breaks. Maybe by that time DDR5 is actually affordable.

This will be so good. Increased clocks and ipc, ddr5, pcie5. Start saving up...

Yep, I'm in. Where do I sign up.

Looks like really good but I will hold with my 5900x for 1-2 years more.

I'd have expected more than 15%, especially since the clocks increase alone would explain a good portion of that 15%. It seems like the actual IPC upgrade is not that significant.

good stuff, curious to see how avx-512 stacks up to intel's offerings

tty8k:

Am I the only one not impressed by this? Looks like they came up with nothing new, just ported Zen 3 to smaller node and bumped the clock. The gain seems rather small to even bother the upcoming Raptor lake.

Well, the wording in the article is not very precise, but being able to reach 5,5 GHz assuming at least some IPC improvement has been made, we are already talking about a level above product stack compared to Zen 3. Though, if a 16-core part beats by 30 % the 12900K, which has 8 performance cores and 8 efficiency ones, then that certainly lowers expectations for many. I'm now yet more convinced that if you have any relatively new CPU, it is sensible to skip the upcoming CPUs and just invest in a GPU or whatever else, since you would also have to pay for DDR5. It seems the hype once more leads to a less impressive actual release.

Cool, but i'll go for stability which means sticking to Intel.

TheDeeGee:

Cool, but i'll go for stability which means sticking to Intel.

That makes no sense.

wavetrex:

Oh I'm sure it will be faster... ... what I'm not sure is, will it be sufficiently faster to worth changing the entire damn computer ... Cpu/Mobo/Memory$$$ ? .

Understandable for many, but for me PC hardware is the only hobby that I spend much cash on. Not to say I upgrade constantly, rather when I see something new to play with. My current 6900xt/3800x based rig superceded a 1080Ti/2700k based one so I don't just buy for the sake of it. But I want to replace my lads hardware so my 570 taichi and cpu will go to him, so with the 6900x if a suitable replacement is out at the end of the year.

Undying:

That makes no sense.

Like the current Intel chips/mobo/bios had a flawless journey ha ha ha ha

Undying:

That makes no sense.

ok it took me months and special apps to have 5950x run almost perfect....other than the very high idle versus Intel...everyone including youtubers and review websites conveniently forget that intel idles at like 13W while AMD is more in the 10% cpu usage of intel but intel that yes WAS stable pre-z690 definitely isn't since Z690 I said it many times it's garbage I HATE it...I never had so many blue screens I never had to go back on overclocking and memory speed that fast it's very unstable and no it's not "me" several youtubers have given their feedback on 12900k z690 and they all say they don't work on them because they aren't as stable as amd or older gens if you read my comments you know I'm quite negative in my opinions..I really hope I was wrong with X670 and that it won't suck like Z690 - I saw they learned a few things with it like don't put a gigantic freaking heat exchanger 1mm above (on top of m.2 slot above gpu so close it almost touches the pcie slot itself) 300-600w nuclear reactor gpus all it was doing is heat your entire motherboard components and block backplate waterblocks...which is pretty much a requirement for 400+ watts gpus, vram or not it helps a ton, power delivery is on the other side of the gpu and all that power goes through it first, yes they change "radiated" heat in the case a lot, massive difference especially for DDR that doesn't get 60-80°C air now - what I don't get is why they still have 4 memory slots when it totally doesn't work (check z690 motherboard 4 sticks QVL and you'll see for yourself..it's not that they aren't tested it's that they only work below 4800Mhz which is really bad on ddr5 ddr5=clockspeed not timings) I'm hoping AMD managed to do it better but I doubt it I fear the omerta (law of silence from mafia) will continue and they will all shut up about it

pegasus1:

Like the current Intel chips/mobo/bios had a flawless journey ha ha ha ha

Its silly becouse alder lake from cpu bending, crazy power draw and heat, bad ddr5 support, drm issues was a smooth sailing. 😀

Kaarme:

I'd have expected more than 15%, especially since the clocks increase alone would explain a good portion of that 15%. It seems like the actual IPC upgrade is not that significant.

Current boost are 4.8? in that case it would be half and half, 7% ipc and 7% clockspeed. If they didn't speak about new fpu unit, new alu, new pipeline, this is basically zen3 at lower nanomenter with a new IO bridge + cache. And that is good enough for me ( i am on a 2700x )

Undying:

Its silly becouse alder lake from cpu bending, crazy power draw and heat, bad ddr5 support, drm issues was a smooth sailing. 😀

Don't forget about Specter. Intel Alder Lake, ARM CPUs Affected by New Spectre Vulnerability

Was expecting more performance uplift than this tbh, thought we'd see 25%-35% Not sure what AMD has been doing the last 2.5 years since Zen3. Maybe most of the work is being done for Zen5 I believe that's a from the ground up redesign

Am pretty sure we are not seeing all there is to see here, we dont know for example if the chips have 3d stacking as the 5800x3d has or will there be a specific gamers line for that? the 5.5ghz clockspeed was genuine for sure but which CPU was that its just a taster of things to come, again they gave us the information in advance and they seem to be delivering on that promise with what we have seen so far, I will say this, TDP is 170w we know AMD is more honest than Intel in this respect, Intels ks CPU chews up to 320w mobo dependant to do the same 5.5ghz speed and they use some pretty fancy coolers at the same time, these CPUs use AM4 coolers so efficiency/performance wise its looking good. Either was as an enthusiast I will be in line to buy.

suty455:

Am pretty sure we are not seeing all there is to see here, we dont know for example if the chips have 3d stacking as the 5800x3d has or will there be a specific gamers line for that? the 5.5ghz clockspeed was genuine for sure but which CPU was that its just a taster of things to come, again they gave us the information in advance and they seem to be delivering on that promise with what we have seen so far, I will say this, TDP is 170w we know AMD is more honest than Intel in this respect, Intels ks CPU chews up to 320w mobo dependant to do the same 5.5ghz speed and they use some pretty fancy coolers at the same time, these CPUs use AM4 coolers so efficiency/performance wise its looking good. Either was as an enthusiast I will be in line to buy.

The rumors i've read say no to these chips having the extra cache. Those chips will come next year. Mind you it was only a rumor and hasn't been confirmed by AMD.