Xbox Series X / S are the only consoles that use the full capabilities of the AMD RDNA 2 architecture
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Fender178
Also I don't think the Series S would be able to take full advantage of RDNA2 because I keep hearing that the Series S is very weak. Look at the new Yukza game it has to run sub full HD to get 60 fps on the Series S in 2020. Yeah I get the engine isn't very well optimized for that game but still.
You have no idea what you are talking about. The PS3 made the PS2 look like the OG Xbox in terms of programming for it.
H83
Richard Nutman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_technical_specifications
"The true power of the EE comes from its two vector units which are known as VU0 and VU1. These are referred to by Sony as two additional floating point units and aid the basic FPU in 3D T&L calculations. The power provided by these vector units is tremendous however their downfall is in their implementation. The power of the two VUs exists in the proper use of them as serial counterparts in handling the T&L calculations necessary during 3D rendering, but with the PS2 being relatively new architecture and dramatically different from what most developers had seen in the past, getting the most out of the host CPU was quite difficult. This is where the majority of the learning curve for developers came from when dealing with the PS2, especially considering that the PS2 shipped to developers without any C libraries. Writing assembly to control the interaction between these two units and the rest of the CPU is not an easy task to say the least and led to many frustrated PS2 developers."
from https://www.anandtech.com/show/853/13
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
I'm not talking about the PS2's CPU, I'm talking about the custom vector unit GPU it had.
schmidtbag
Richard Nutman
Fender178
Richard Nutman
EspHack
well the xboxes are just weird w10 pc' at this point, so AMD can either make their stuff targeting a major console AND the pc industry vs ONE sony console, guess what would happen...
fry178
@Druid Druid
funny that millions have no problems, that included me using it for about 6-8h almost every day during summer month,
and at least 1-2 days per week for +6h to play/demo games and/or VR on a (85in) Sony 4K tv.
and no, it wasnt minecraft at 720p (no offense folks).
any units i saw with temp issues were either having problems with room temp/blocked air flow or a broken fan/fan controller,
the latter being repaired by Sony under warranty (i actually received a brand new and newer unit when i had it one a PS3).
@H83
and is still getting "outsold" by PS5, like they did since the first PS came out.
Having "2fps" more isnt always the first thing ppl look at when buying a console, nor have i seen "day and night" difference in IQ between both units.
Fender178
nicugoalkeper
itpro
Ne1l
Ne1l
https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1270809430091677696
** also comments from a developer about Xbox Series X version will run at higher fps;
"I announce my Xbox exclusive is going multiplatform - Not a single Xbox "fanboy" complains
I announce that the XBSX version will be the only version that's 120 fps: Multiple Playstation fanboys troll the post
Believe it or not, I didn't design the PS5. Your beef is with Sony
— Dynamic Voltage Games (@dynamic_voltage) July 20, 2020"
You think MS are stupid enough to highlight and claim "full capabilities of RDNA 2" without a reason for that to be anything but a superior 'one-up' comment that they can't prove.
* erm.. MS is not saying they have the most powerful console, I think you'll find they are.. nicugoalkeper
First thing i said give me proof:
1. You just posted a Twitter post, really, did you think that if that was real they did not advertise it, where are the videos where the promote the most powerful console.
4 months have pass how can they miss such a chance.... On Twitter you can post what you want...
Do you believe MS will slip such a oportunity to promote? I think not.
2. Dirt 5 and Watch Dogs are runing at same rezolution and fps.
3. And there are talks about the new Geometry Engine from PS5, it seems it will come to RDNA 3 or even later ones, so then this it means is better PS 5 (I don't know do you??).
Once again I say we don't know yet if the king is Xbox s X or if PS 5 is we need to wait and see.
So please don't trie to prove what you can't.
I have Xbox and Ps from the beginning and don't care if one ore another wins.
But to say any hardware is more powerful that another if you don't know them is blasfemie. Still we are on Guru3d here...
Fender178
https://www.onmsft.com/news/xbox-series-s-versions-of-pubg-and-devil-may-cry-5-will-lack-some-important-series-x-enhancements They have the dev kits and the actual console hardware for Pete sakes.
Or you can listen to what game developers say because they know how their game is supposed to run on said hardware. nicugoalkeper
Fender178
nicugoalkeper
Still if R8 uses a new engine it may be that the problem is there, because Xbox is more close to a Pc and DirectX is from Microsoft so yea Xbox games are more easy to develop for someone that does not need to learn new things, but on PS 5 devs need to learn how to fully utilize the console. And devs tend to go one way or another.
To me this subject is closed, we need facts. Not to mention that Ms and Sony will likely want to buy other game studios so yea we don't know if not some devs will want to help a deal...
I will say this again show me real proof, until then it seems that Xbox is the better, but it only seems, we will so (no point to prolong the subject).
Cave Waverider
Nothing new, really. Sony has always said PS5's GPU is based on RDNA with custom enhancements, not RDNA2.
And Microsoft has always said their Xbox Series GPUs will be based on RDNA2.