Windows 10 will not make pirated copies genuine

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#5033202
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Not arguing - making my views known: I don't understand why people pirate operating systems when they are free. Whether that's by the manufacturer bundling, or by platform, like Apple; or by free upgrade. Laziness?
For the reasons that have just been explained to you - Windows is not free no matter what you think
#5033207
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Not arguing - making my views known: I don't understand why people pirate operating systems when they are free. Whether that's by the manufacturer bundling, or by platform, like Apple; or by free upgrade. Laziness?
I'm building a computer right now for a coworker. $500 small itx machine. $100 was for the 8.1 x64 OEM license. How am I getting that for free? Like where am I going to get a 8.1 x64 key from?
#5033211
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Not arguing - making my views known: I don't understand why people pirate operating systems when they are free. Whether that's by the manufacturer bundling, or by platform, like Apple; or by free upgrade. Laziness?
Apple's OS is not free, you have to buy a Mac to get the OS legally. Still not sure where you see it as free.
#5033214
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Some people think they're entitled to everything. 🙄
And some people think their wallet entitles them to everything based upon artificial institutions. Whats your point?
#5033216
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Not arguing - making my views known: I don't understand why people pirate operating systems when they are free. Whether that's by the manufacturer bundling, or by platform, like Apple; or by free upgrade. Laziness?
Because pirating free things is not pirating, its just installing :bang:
#5033272
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What :3
Mistaking every simple sentence for deeper meaning and an open invitation to start a silly philosophical derailing of the thread.
#5033322
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Nope, you said name something that doesn't come with an OS, a custom built PC doesn't come with an OS - regardless if they owned a pre-built shop bought PC previously or not - which many people will not have You're arguing a point that is completely invalid in this forum - 99% of people here run a custom built PC
I doubt if it's even close to 99%. It may not even be a majority. I see a lot of laptop users here for example.
#5033332
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just think of all the data Microsoft can collect from pirated copies that upgrade,yep a little paranoia is a healthy thing,i trust MS about as far as i can throw it,10 meters last attempt
#5033339
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just think of all the data Microsoft can collect from pirated copies that upgrade,yep a little paranoia is a healthy thing,i trust MS about as far as i can throw it,10 meters last attempt
They can do what they want, there's no way its gonna be "unpirateable". Would be stupid to waste resources on that.
#5033370
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MS should go back on this - because the ONLY way for them to curb piracy is to make Win10 free - and they obviously don't wanna do that, so they're saying "we'll give you free upgrades but likely install spyware on your system in return". Even if that's not true, people will pirate their activation to avoid that scenario. The worst thing about this, is that someone can get a legit copy of Windows 7 from the MS website, which comes with a 30 day trial, wait for that to end, then upgrade for free to Windows 10. MS really didn't think this through. Instead of giving free upgrades to pirates, why not just make piracy impossible? Blizzard managed to do that with Diablo 3 by making the client constantly authenticate and have to download server data just to function.
#5033394
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The worst thing about this, is that someone can get a legit copy of Windows 7 from the MS website, which comes with a 30 day trial, wait for that to end, then upgrade for free to Windows 10. MS really didn't think this through.
If the previous OS is not activated, they won't get a free license for Win 10 Equally I'd imagine if the previous OS is activated via KMS, they won't get a free Win 10 license either It'll have to be a genuinely activated retail/OEM license on the previous OS for them to receive a Win 10 license
#5033396
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MS should go back on this - because the ONLY way for them to curb piracy is to make Win10 free - and they obviously don't wanna do that, so they're saying "we'll give you free upgrades but likely install spyware on your system in return". Even if that's not true, people will pirate their activation to avoid that scenario. The worst thing about this, is that someone can get a legit copy of Windows 7 from the MS website, which comes with a 30 day trial, wait for that to end, then upgrade for free to Windows 10. MS really didn't think this through. Instead of giving free upgrades to pirates, why not just make piracy impossible? Blizzard managed to do that with Diablo 3 by making the client constantly authenticate and have to download server data just to function.
People with datacaps are outraged, people with no internet suddenly don't have a genuine copy of windows.
#5033401
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Instead of giving free upgrades to pirates, why not just make piracy impossible? Blizzard managed to do that with Diablo 3 by making the client constantly authenticate and have to download server data just to function.
You can't make piracy impossible, even an online server for constant authentication would be useless, that's how KMS works and that's cracked People can create fake servers - it's been done for games like Diablo 3 before when it first came out iirc
#5033411
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Well considering the majority of members here built their own PCs, their PCs didn't come with an OS
I Think if MS made the cost of the OS/Key 59$ likes most software people would be more inclined to pay over pirating not that it would stop it ,but 199 $ per machine is alot money. IF buy an OS for 199$ which what full retail pro/utilmate build cost for most part. I want to install on my pc and any rebuild of that pc with out have deal with with them saying no cause i upgrade my pc. Long it is used on one pc i dont see the issue. people pirate cause of pricing for one and MS charges and arm and leg. a simple deactivation before new pc uses the key simple way of avoiding this. Then again none of it matter like been said there not been MS OS not hacked to think it genuine. The more things change the it stays the same. I have high hopes for windows 10 and hope they dont pull the same stuff they did with 8. and MS should charge alot less then they do for the os to entice people to actual pay for it but 199$ it alot sure you can get less feature build for less
#5033438
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They took two steps forward and then they walked three steps back.
Where exactly did they back-track with this announcement? MS never stated that pirated copies of Win7 and 8.x would magically become legit. MS simply stated that they would allow people with pirated copies of Windows to "upgrade" to Win10, which is still true.
Because pirating free things is not pirating, its just installing :bang:
Well damn. And here I was so proud of myself for pirating Linux.....
#5033553
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Anyone ever thought about the million non-genuine copies in china/india? i also know pc-techs/shop owners that are using cracks to either make more money by charging for the os but without actually buying the cd/keys], or to be able to sell pc's at a lower price and still have a [win] OS on it. dont think that those customers know. and anyone that thinks 200$ for an OS is too much [most dont need a retail version and/or ultimate anyway]: one good cup of coffee every week, for one year, will cost you more and in the end, will leave you with "nothing". my copy of windows will still be "here", and i can still install it in 5y, if i want to. but i've seen it with cars: people complain about the cost of tires/brakes/maintenance etc. and sacrifice "quality" to save a couple of bucks, but gas is about 10 times more expensive [per mile driven]...
#5033558
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The best idea would be making it cheap like W8 was, the only reason i bought 8 was because it was only £25. While upgrading everyone would be great for market share, i suppose it is a kick in the teeth for people who paid for previous versions.
#5033618
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I think most of you guys are straying off-topic. MS isn't backtracking at all, people just misunderstood. All that a free upgrade means is MS won't be checking for genuine keys for upgrade installation. After installation who knows. They may still nag to activate with a genuine key, but I doubt it. The only difference between a "real" and "fake" copy of windows is access to Microsoft support and updates. As always, non-activated copies will not get tech support or updates. The way I see it, MS will probably not nag to activate more than once saying your copy is not genuine. Maybe they will nag a little if you try to update or call tech support. Other than that, they'll want all the Chinese users to have full access to Windows Store to hopefully make purchases or download free apps to pump up adoption numbers.

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