Windows 10 will monitor NVMe SSDs and warn you in case of pending failures
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JonasBeckman
On a NTFS formatted drive I'm pretty sure that should only happen with the older Master Boot Record not the newer Guided Partition Table or GPT file system which I think has been around for a fairly long while now. 🙂
(It should even be the default now but older drivers would have to be done through the VFS again and disk manager utility or similar program.)
Far as this itself goes it looks like it just reads out SMART status for the SSD's reported overall health value for writes and what not, seems like a good idea even if it's simple what with quad layer cells and degradation over time although unlike a moving HDD a SSD is still really robust though it's not hours it's measured in now it's writes.
Alessio1989
There are on the market some NVME SSDs with low TBW lifetime values (eg: some cheap Pioneer NVME SSDs, really fast like more expensive NVME SSDs but with a lifetime of 1/5 or 1/6 of them).
schmidtbag
How do you know it hasn't optimized? Also to my recollection (I don't really use Windows much) you can have Windows TRIM on-the-fly, so you don't have to use the scheduled system. Deleting files will be slower but in my experience, the difference isn't significant.
pharma
Wonder if any drive information is sent data back to MS or if this is maintained locally.
gx-x
another bloatware feature that will wear down hardware, slow down (even if insignificantly) things and will be disabled by almost everyone that understands computers.
Astyanax
you literally don't have any idea what you're complaining about, do you?
gx-x
I know exactly. You are the one who has no idea what I am even talking about.
Denial
Cool.
It's a good thing it's going into an operating system that's used by 1.5B people, the vast majority of which don't understand computers. It's almost like it's a good feature.
gx-x
the feature is already there, has been for years.
Denial
So the new feature they are adding, that's bloatware, slows the computer down and wears hardware, has been there for years? Lol..
Astyanax
I feel like we just got played.
gx-x
no, he just doesn't pay attention to technology within SSD controllers that have been doing a lot including communicating with OS on what their status is, automatic trim, and error correction, health status etc. All the things windows will incorporate into this new redundant feature.
edit: then again, you people just might love the call home features and didn't disable some 15 servers windows is reporting back and forward to, then proceed to complain when windows update breaks something for you because you haven't disabled automatic updates rather than update yourself on a mouse click.
mbk1969
Enlighten us, how this new feature will be implemented.
(PS Just in case, no sarcasm and anything, just pure curiosity.
Because most of the people were thinking about reading S.M.A.R.T. status from the disk, which is hardly bulk in size, time and CPU usage, i.e. no big deal.)
gx-x
I really don't want to google everything for you guys...or to make puns. Your SSDs already know what's up. This is similar to m$ implementing "night light" it's the worst implementation of them all. Their Drive is cancer, their "Defender" does nothing but get in the way, their ransomware protection is useless, etc. I am not looking forward to anything no one asked for, especially when it's already working as intended. End user should just install software that their drive comes with if they are not interested in managing anything themselves or don't trust that their working drives are working.
edit: WHY would you EVER read S.M.A.R.T. info if your drive is working properly? motherboard, ssd, and windows know how to read that data, you don't have to. Windows will already alert to problems with drives. Sure Windows XP wouldn't but windows 10 will.
mbk1969
Google is not reliable source of technical information. I was hoping that you already know how that new feature will be implemented - judging by the way you replied to some people here.
PS
I see only two guaranteed new behaviours - the actual notification and the text in disk properties. We do not know whether current Win10 (or previous Win8, Win7) editions read info about (NVMe) SSDs. We do know that there was no notifications about it, and there was no warning text in disk properties.
(Notifications are not a new feature by itself...)
gx-x
they have to read it, like it or not. Chipset drivers make sure of that. There is all support for them you need, manufacturters make sure of that. Otherwise, one would be suggesting that without this new feature drives wont work. Mac OS doesn't work with them, neither does linux etc. None of this is true of course.
PS. google is great for googling articles and information, it's a tool, not a source of anything (imho) except for pointing to sources (these could be good or bad etc of course, it's up to user to determine that).
PPS. I don't know why you thought I knew HOW M$ will implement it. I read the same things you did about it. I have concluded it's redundant bloatware, like most of small windows apps.
JonasBeckman
From the images it mostly just looks like SMART status sensor info printed out to the settings page for this and I presume the notification menu as a option for when at least the overall disk health is hitting some threshold value.
Stuff like what Crystal Disk Info and some other utilities or the SSD's own driver suite might contain into the OS directly.
Simple stuff but for your average users without the need for third party software.
EDIT: Probably also mostly simpler data since the SMART stuff and firmware might differ a bit so basics like disk temperature and the overall "health" status but that in itself could also be managed different for how your drive is "scored" for how this is calculated and how it's weighted after hitting 99%
At least I would expect manufacturers to drag out that 100% -> 99% shift as much as possible for marketing purposes of disk reliability and estimated lifetime but perhaps some of these actually are more fair too. 🙂
mbk1969
In my eyes that`s exactly the thing to state when you know details. Otherwise that`s just an assumption (and 'dislike' statement).
What small Windows apps do you call redundant bloatware? (again, out of curiosity)
gx-x
Phone, Tablet, Xbox Bar, Game mode, Snap tool, Defender, Cloud Drive, Media Player and there is at least 10 hidden services/apps that slow your PC down for no reason (disabling them makes no difference to system, except system usage is lower on idle) those kind of things...
The Goose
Yea....i`d rather use Corsair and Sandisk`s software but win10 has become rather attached and despite not doing the job itself..wont let anyone doit either.
