VMWare will charge double licensing fees for CPUs with more than 32 cores
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sverek
Yeah, kinda makes sense when you got consumers having more cores in single CPU than 2 Intel CPUs systems combined.
Intel: Hey, that's nice AMD vm you got there, how many cores in it?
AMD: Yes.
anticupidon
What an Intelligent move right there, VMWare.
Really now, really?
umeng2002
Just switch software. If your organization isn't that nimble, you deserve to pay whatever VMWare decides you pay.
anticupidon
It not that easy sometimes. Most enterprise things I've touched were ESXi or VMware.
This topic comes often , and people are reluctant to the change itself.
What serious enterprise level alternative you suggest? Let's discuss, just for academic purposes.
Undying
Intel also have 56core cpus so it effects both chipmakers.
alanm
They looked at open-source virtualbox which can do max 32 cores, so decided to double charge for anything above that.
anticupidon
Yeah, Intel will be bleeding money.
Data centers is where the war is being waged right now.
We all know how has most cores and more to lose.
386SX
What a coincidence .... 🙁
First they had a license model as any other company, then they changed to "per-socket" licensing, now it's "per-core".
My guess the next one will be "per-logical-core", so a 32core with HT will need to have 64 cores licensed.
But same goes for Oracle and MS SQL as well, so "no big deal" at all. It's still frustrating to say the least, but no breaking news.
H83
From a business point i can understand this move but feels a little "cheap"...
DG21
$LIGHTLY GR€€DY?
anticupidon
That's a Karen move, VMWare.
Say, I saw you yesterday morning having coffee with your best friend, Intel.
/joke mode off
JamesSneed
The only other options I can think of for any decently sized enterprise is Microsoft's Hyper-V and Citrix’s XenServer.
anticupidon
It could work in Hyper-V favour.
But also Xen as they comunity XPC NG edition is praised to be best thing in last years as an substitute for VMware.
schmidtbag
As dumb as it is, I understand why they're doing this. 32+ core CPUs in a single socket are heavily eating into VMWare's sales. However, since most systems that would use such CPUs are likely going to be fresh new ones (rather than upgrades), I suspect VMware will be losing money since those potential customers will be switching to a less greedy service.
asturur
Here is amd gaining.
With theyr core number being a clean multiple of 32 , you do not wast a license.
With a 2 socket 28 core cpus, you get to need 2 licenses, while you could you a 2 socket 32 core cpus from AMD. 8 core more.
Caesar
How Vmware will "detect"my number of cores? 😀
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/sysinfoapi/nf-sysinfoapi-getlogicalprocessorinformation?redirectedfrom=MSDN
tsunami231
What? like have more cores per cpu, changes things for them, they just want to charge more
asturur
it change for them because since this year is possible build with one socket what before required usually 4 socket.
Or 2 servers, so they sell less licenses.
rl66
Not at all Intel will be penalised too as next gen CPU will have lot of core too.
This decision is stupid, it's like we have to pay actual car with the price indexed on the HP of the race car from early last century... imagine the price of an asmathic entry level Honda Civic that have more HP than the 1st racecar ???
It's the same logic.
VMWare is just using it's position on the market to try earning some more money and have found a way to do it... That's all
Tat3
MS Server 2019 is also lisenced per core.
https://www.microsoft.com/fi-fi/cloud-platform/windows-server-pricing
Some products are priced per socket and some are per user. The price you pay in the end is what matters, not how it's calculated. Customers are looking how they can get something as cheap as possible and companies exist because those make profit so that's what they want to do.
I think I would buy that explanation.
