I hope sony make a true successor to demon's souls.

That should have been Deep Down. Frankly I dislike the F2P model so no DD for me. It killed my hyped for the game instantly.

Yep whilst the game does look good and impressive for the bad hardware its running on I can't help but think this is going to be littered with micro transactions left right and centre. Very bad move from CAPCOM, though I suppose this is what we are going to see more and more of in the next gen realm. Sad really, I miss the days where you payed £40 and you got the full game end of.

Yep whilst the game does look good and impressive for the bad hardware its running on

PS4 is bad hardware now ? I've seen it all. It's a very capable piece of tech, no question about that. It doesn't need to rival/outclass current high-end GPUs. It will punch way above its weight, especially in the GPGPU department.

I can't help but think this is going to be littered with micro transactions left right and centre. Very bad move from CAPCOM, though I suppose this is what we are going to see more and more of in the next gen realm. Sad really, I miss the days where you payed £40 and you got the full game end of.

I agree with this, I hope it won't spread to every game.

PS4 is bad hardware now ? I've seen it all. It's a very capable piece of tech, no question about that. It doesn't need to rival/outclass current high-end GPUs. It will punch way above its weight, especially in the GPGPU department. I agree with this, I hope it won't spread to every game.

You think that PS4 and Xbox One have good hardware!? They are getting APU's designed for Laptops/Tablets. The only impressive thing about them is the PS4 using GDDR5 unified memory. Give it another five years and these consoles will be outdated by Tablets and Smartphones easily. Just look up Project Logan from Nvidia and tell me it won't happen. Optimizations is where consoles shine, and whilst I shall get a PS4 soon because I love Sony's exclusives, you can't help but look at this game and the videos shown that it still looks like 720p gameplay 30fps with some questionable textures in places (this might be the Youtube compression but its not normally too bad). Just look at BF4 on PS4 and XOne, they have had to change it to 720p to maintain 60fps. Will get a PS4 once the mad rush is over this year to get one, will be staying well away from Xbox One the less money I can give to Microsoft the better.

You think that PS4 and Xbox One have good hardware!? They are getting APU's designed for Laptops/Tablets. The only impressive thing about them is the PS4 using GDDR5 unified memory. Give it another five years and these consoles will be outdated by Tablets and Smartphones easily. Just look up Project Logan from Nvidia and tell me it won't happen. Optimizations is where consoles shine, and whilst I shall get a PS4 soon because I love Sony's exclusives, you can't help but look at this game and the videos shown that it still looks like 720p gameplay 30fps with some questionable textures in places (this might be the Youtube compression but its not normally too bad). Just look at BF4 on PS4 and XOne, they have had to change it to 720p to maintain 60fps. Will get a PS4 once the mad rush is over this year to get one, will be staying well away from Xbox One the less money I can give to Microsoft the better.

I disagree, I wouldn't consider the PS4 low end just yet. I have yet to see a game taking full advantage of its GPGPU potential. The resolution of BF4 on PS4 has never been confirmed btw. We know it's higher than 720p. The PS4 is a highly customized machine, it will take time for devs to make the most of it. I put little stock in BF4 being a catalyst for the PS4, Killzone Shadow Fall, Infamous SS of The Order look better than anything I've seen on PC excluding mods. That's not too bad for a 1.84tflops GPU. The resolution of DD is speculation at this point, but regardless of the hardware if you shoot for 60fps then something has to give.

I disagree, I wouldn't consider the PS4 low end just yet. I have yet to see a game taking full advantage of its GPGPU potential. The resolution of BF4 on PS4 has never been confirmed btw. We know it's higher than 720p. The PS4 is a highly customized machine, it will take time for devs to make the most of it. I put little stock in BF4 being a catalyst for the PS4, Killzone Shadow Fall, Infamous SS of The Order look better than anything I've seen on PC excluding mods. That's not too bad for a 1.84tflops GPU. The resolution of DD is speculation at this point, but regardless of the hardware if you shoot for 60fps then something has to give.

BF4 720P on next consoles have been leaked for months now, not confirmed yes but still extremely likely. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654490352900282/ There are more on the web if you want me to point them out. Also 1.84TFlops is the computational power of the WHOLE system not just the GPU. Comparing them to high end PC's now or even two years ago is a little unfair I totally agree. They will bring good things like more optimization, and finally better multithreaded games and applications. Its going to have to with the CPU running at a measly 1.6-1.8GHz. Oh and Killzone Shadow Fall has been 100% confirmed to be running at 1080p but 30fps because they want to see how far they can push the machine. The demo shown at Sony's conference was rumored to be using a devkit with only 4GB RAM and then Sony changed it last minute to 8GB so it could indeed look better. Also it should not take anywhere near as long to get this most out of these machines seen as they are using PC architecture which has been around for 30 years! Rather than them using PPC architecture or even the stupid CELL which was loosely based on PPC as well. Of course the games on next gen console are looking better than anything on PC so far (debatable based on opinion) because of the optimization, and the ability to access the hardware direct rather than going through an OS and botched API like on PC. Though this could very well change if Mantle becomes big, with BF4 already confirmed other devs will follow no doubt just a case of how many. It is nice to see next gen consoles coming out, finally us PC gamers get to see what our games would of looked like three years ago 🙂

BF4 720P on next consoles have been leaked for months now, not confirmed yes but still extremely likely. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654490352900282/ There are more on the web if you want me to point them out.

I don't think it will end up being 720p on PS4. 176GB/s and 32 rops are there for a reason.

Also 1.84TFlops is the computational power of the WHOLE system not just the GPU. Comparing them to high end PC's now or even two years ago is a little unfair I totally agree.

Nope, the GPU itself is 1.84tflops. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/xbox-one-hardware-compared-to-playstation-4/2 http://www.gamespot.com/forums/games-discussion-1000000/ps4-official-specs-released-by-sony-8-core-cpu-184-29356262/ http://s16.postimg.org/jxujvct9x/console.png

They will bring good things like more optimization, and finally better multithreaded games and applications. Its going to have to with the CPU running at a measly 1.6-1.8GHz.

The CPU is not a bottleneck for a console designed with GPGPU in mind.

Oh and Killzone Shadow Fall has been 100% confirmed to be running at 1080p but 30fps because they want to see how far they can push the machine. The demo shown at Sony's conference was rumored to be using a devkit with only 4GB RAM and then Sony changed it last minute to 8GB so it could indeed look better.

Yeah, the February demo used 3072MB only for the GPU, but I assume they don't really have time to push too much things.

Also it should not take anywhere near as long to get this most out of these machines seen as they are using PC architecture which has been around for 30 years! Rather than them using PPC architecture or even the stupid CELL which was loosely based on PPC as well.

HSA is not 30 years old, it will take time to get a good grasp of this console.

Of course the games on next gen console are looking better than anything on PC so far (debatable based on opinion) because of the optimization, and the ability to access the hardware direct rather than going through an OS and botched API like on PC. Though this could very well change if Mantle becomes big, with BF4 already confirmed other devs will follow no doubt just a case of how many.

I really hope Mantle takes off on PC but I'm not holding my breath. Multiplatform developpers don't put too much ressources into PC ports. I wish Microsoft would care a little bit much for its API, I don't think they see Mantle as a threat.

It is nice to see next gen consoles coming out, finally us PC gamers get to see what our games would of looked like three years ago 🙂

That's pretty ironic that we have to wait for those "weak" consoles to raise the bar graphically speaking. Those consoles are not powerhouse but I'm willing to bet they're much more powerful than the average gaming PC. At a macro level PC gamers will have some catching up to do. Also, whether we accept it or not consoles will be the baseline of our PC ports, devs are not going to build their next-gen games on PC because consoles are far more profitable as a market. It's sad but true : PC gaming will forever be an afterthought for the vast majority of AAA publishers.

Deep Down Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwxY7rPE7sM

Love the look of the game... very Dark Souls/ Demons Souls... mucho like-o. Technically, the graphics looks great... is this a custom Capcom engine? Unreal 4? Imagine a REmake of all the RE games in this engine...

http://cdn2.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/DeepDown-4.jpg?57efa4 http://cdn2.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/DeepDown-3.jpg?57efa4

If I didn't know better I would assume these are Dark Souls screens, but that is good at least to my eyes.

If I didn't know better I would assume these are Dark Souls screens, but that is good at least to my eyes.

The graphical quality of this game seems to have really dipped down. The trailers looked far more impressive. Are we sure UbiSoft isn't making this?

E3 2014 Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfnI0f-CE60 gameplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbFBEjlKtpY :banana::banana::banana:

This game, bloodbourne, the order 1886, are looking great and moody, then I will throw in a bit of little big planet 3 for some cheery colour. 🙂

This game, bloodbourne, the order 1886, are looking great and moody, then I will throw in a bit of little big planet 3 for some cheery colour. 🙂

Yeah, it'll be a great time in 3 years when any of them make a release date lol.

I'm waiting so hypped!!

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Hah, that chest monster looks quite a bit like Dark/Demon Souls.

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Looks great gameplay wise, shame those graphics looks like they took a MASSIVE step down or it is just me? Those textures on the wall look nowhere near as hi res as the other supposed "gameplay" trailers lol

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/12/25/ps4-exclusive-deep-down-gets-amazing-new-screenshots-showcases-the-green-dungeon/ new screenshots