LOL , spoken like a true clown im not religious at all Nice to see this turning into a "I love pirates" thread....

the enemy of your enemy, is your friend 🙂

Well, there are always thieves who try to take everything without paying. Pretty unbelievable that they have this kind of hole there in the first place.

Well, there are always thieves who try to take everything

Agreed, Ubisoft and EA are thieves.

I hate these threads where thieves believe they are owed a product because they dislike the methods of a game developer. It's a game, an optional form of entertainment. The correct form of protest is to not buy said game/product not to steal it.

I hate these threads where thieves believe they are owed a product because they dislike the methods of a game developer. It's a game, an optional form of entertainment. The correct form of protest is to not buy said game/product not to steal it.

Shhh, you're destroying the illusion that piracy is "sticking it to the man" and a noble endeavor, one that brings justice to gamers everywhere.

Pirates are one of the reasons games get released half done nowadays. If there were no pirates the devs wouldn't have so many excuses. That, and lawyers.

Sorry am I the only one who is concerned by the actual screenshots? Is this is a DLC or a spin off because it looks nothing like FC3?

Sorry am I the only one who is concerned by the actual screenshots? Is this is a DLC or a spin off because it looks nothing like FC3?

It's a stand alone, written by same author as FC3, around 3gb in size. I guess it uses the same FC3 engine and the gameplay vids seemed quite tight too. This'll be my next purchase for sure. ..well £20 i'd pay i guess.

Pirates are one of the reasons games get released half done nowadays. If there were no pirates the devs wouldn't have so many excuses. That, and lawyers.

lol, nope. its bad dev work(but that doesnt mean the devs are bad, probally they dont get payd enough or dont have enough time caue of companys like ea and ubi, they only want it fast and more and more money...

So you think Ubi are gonna start being a bit nicer to the devs cause of this? probably a dev that leaked it tbh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbq_1Wy70rE

I thought always on DRM stopped the pirates?......:3eyes:.......

I don't in any way support Piracy. But I'm really sick and tired of hearing the words thieves and theft being flung around. Theft implies that you are actually "taking something" Theft would be taking drives or beta discs containing the software. Piracy in the digital sense is nothing more than making unathorized copies. Which is no more theft than copying a book.

I don't in any way support Piracy. But I'm really sick and tired of hearing the words thieves and theft being flung around. Theft implies that you are actually "taking something" Theft would be taking drives or beta discs containing the software. Piracy in the digital sense is nothing more than making unathorized copies. Which is no more theft than copying a book.

"something"...you said it which of course is a word that could also "imply" copyrighted material. Perhaps you have a better word for everyone to use? I'm wiling to bet it would imply the same thing. We could just categorize as a crime?

I love how people try to justify piracy.... Stealing...isn't going to make these companies stop and think "Hey, we need to stop trying to screw over our customers".... Instead, it's going to make them work harder at it.

I love how people try to justify piracy.... Stealing...isn't going to make these companies stop and think "Hey, we need to stop trying to screw over our customers".... Instead, it's going to make them work harder at it.

Yeah and I can just imagine a publisher turning around and saying "We have had no piracy this year, so we can now finally sell our games at a $20" Piracy is a result of market forces. It's up to publishers to make the first step.

I don't in any way support Piracy. But I'm really sick and tired of hearing the words thieves and theft being flung around. Theft implies that you are actually "taking something" Theft would be taking drives or beta discs containing the software. Piracy in the digital sense is nothing more than making unathorized copies. Which is no more theft than copying a book.

It's no different that if you had walked into the store and stole a book or the software disk. It is irrelevant the media or medium in which said item is taken. You have unlawfully taken possession of a product and not paid the producer. It is that simple. It's theft and those who do it are thieves.

I think the biggest hole in the uplay exploit was that users were able to play a uplay game without activating/cd key in offline mode. The exploit has been around for a couple months. Back then it was a matter of manually hex editing your ownership file. Then later on someone made a cmd line tool to use the exploit. Then further on someone made one click GUI tool (written in AutoIt) to use the exploit, which just made it all to easy. Crap only hit the fan when someone released video footage of game play of FC3 BD. Then another person posted on a known gaming magazine site forum of how the exploit was used to dl the game and that's what finally got Ubi's attention. I actually watched the process roll along as the exploit started as a hex edit up to a full one click GUI. I was offered the source code to the GUI by it's developer in a PM, but I never even responded. I knew full to well that nothing good could come from a tool that gives people access to robbing games/software that you don't own or have no intention of paying for from any companies server. Sure unlock a DLC that my game already contains files for, but dl'n full blown DLC or Games that you never bought, your game doesn't contain the files for and not have any intention of buying is stealing no matter which way you look at it.

Yeah and I can just imagine a publisher turning around and saying "We have had no piracy this year, so we can now finally sell our games at a $20" Piracy is a result of market forces. It's up to publishers to make the first step.

Piracy has existed for decades, regardless of price....but nice attempt to justify it....

It's no different that if you had walked into the store and stole a book or the software disk. It is irrelevant the media or medium in which said item is taken. You have unlawfully taken possession of a product and not paid the producer. It is that simple. It's theft and those who do it are thieves.

This is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to begin. But let me try to explain. Copying (or downloading and sharing in case of software) is not stealing. It's not even remotely close to stealing a book from a store. It's much closer to copying a book using a photocopy machine. If you walked into a store and stole a book, the original author or publisher wouldn't even know about it. You would do damage to the store because you physically took a product that they were selling, preventing this exact copy of the product to be sold to somebody else. This is theft. When you are copying a book, you aren't exactly stealing it. You just make copies of certain pages (or the whole book if you really want it). In your post, you use the word "possession". It implies physically taking the book in this case and making others unable to read it, which is not true for downloads. Yes, piracy inflicts SOME damage on the revenues, but it's nowhere near as bad as the publishers tend to exaggerate it. The reason is very simple: those people who download software/music/films/videogames would never have bought them anyway. Paying or not paying for software is a matter of personal attitude. Yes, it is morally wrong to download copyrighted material. But NO, it's not stealing. I beg to differ.