Good news, more time for a more polished version of Mantle. This API has proven remarquably efficient in BF4...and it's still in alpha stage !

Its probably because these games started development before mantle was announced, so mantle support is almost certainly something added on later in the dev cycle. I do agree they should be more straight up about mantle not launching WITH the game though, its annoying to buy a game expecting mantle support just to have them say "oh yeah actually we are patching it in later" a week before launch.

What if this is AMD's fault? We are yet to see a driver with official mantle support for 79xx cards.

It is AMDs fault, as they havn't got Mantle anywhere near ready yet, they got Dice to take the blame for them not having the driver ready, by getting them to delay the BF4 Mantle patch till January, but the truth was, they didn't have the Mantle driver ready. As if Dice delivered the Mantle patch on time in December, no one would have been able to have used it, until AMD got the Mantle driver out, and they didn't have that scheduled till late January (as they made a big song and dance about it coming sometime in January, at the start of it with all those slides), and its still not ready now, as the 14.1 is more like an Alpha. It should never have been released, but they had no choice but to put it out broken and unfinished, as Dice released the BF4 Mantle patch (which im guessing AMD didn't want then either), and also my guess, they've now got Square Enix to come out and say (to take the flack for them as well like Dice did, as the games already done, went Gold days/weeks ago), that they are now going to patch Mantle and TrueAudio into Thief sometime in March (so far), so they can hopefully get the driver finished by then, or a better working one done, as it was supposed to have had Mantle and TrueAudio from the get go!. I wouldn't be surprised though, if Mantle and TrueAudio are actually in it tbh, and they've just had to disable them thanks to AMD not being ready with the driver still, and then once AMD get the driver done, or a better working one out, they'll just magically release a patch for the game, that will just re-enable the options! 😀

I hate to be captain obvious, but mantle was never promised at release.

I hate to be captain obvious, but mantle was never promised at release.

It was.

link please, ive read most if not all of the press announcements and never once did it say at release.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/amd_alters_never_settle_program_with_battlefield_4_and_thief.html http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=4781

i dont think that means what you think it does. but, ok for the moment ill buy it.

One would assume that if there's (Launch) after the first bullet, that would mean that it would be available at release. If they didn't meant that, well, way to make things unclear.

Personally, i read it as the launch of the API. But i suppose you could take it the other way.

The APIs already been launched though (14.1s), its just not finished. That slide reads as Thief having Mantle support from its launch (the games), as BF4 had to be patched with it.

No game should have been advertised as supporting Mantle....if it had to be patched in after release.... I'm waiting for the next Dragon Age release. If this "release now, patch for Mantle later" fiasco is still taking place....I won't waste my money.

AMD have gone about it all wrong, but thats them, they can never deliver right, they'll get there in the end though, as always, ive no doubt. 🙂

Colour me disappoint. On the other hand it will probably be going for a tenner a month after release so I'll just wait.

No game should have been advertised as supporting Mantle....if it had to be patched in after release.... I'm waiting for the next Dragon Age release. If this "release now, patch for Mantle later" fiasco is still taking place....I won't waste my money.

Its all because AMD can't execute delivery, their Mantle drivers shoud have been done last year, BF4 should have had its Mantle patch on time in December, and Thief should have came out with Mantle support from launch, but its what AMD are known for, poor delivery, so its not unexpected really is it. We all know if Nvidia were doing Mantle, it would have all gone like that, the driver would have bene done last year, BF4 would have been patched on time, and Thief would have been coming out with Mantle on launch.

Its all because AMD can't execute delivery, their Mantle drivers shoud have been done last year, BF4 should have had its Mantle patch on time in December, and Thief should have came out with Mantle support from launch, but its what AMD are known for, poor delivery, so its not unexpected really is it..

they're good at hyping things credit where credit's due, anyways loads of 290 /290x cards have been sold, mantle = job done.

I think the huge number of AMD cards that have been sold are due to mining not Mantle

Imo its not because of mantle, but because they're kinda cheap & solid gpus (customs). And because they rival competitors top end gpus at a much higher price. lol I give mantle 20-30% credit 😀

I dunno why you guys derailed, 290 /290x aren't mining cards.

I think the huge number of AMD cards that have been sold are due to mining not Mantle

Agreed, Minings the cause of their cards selling out everywhere, and their prices rocketing, not Mantle, as that was unveiled at that GPU 14 tech day way back in Sept (?) last year.

I dunno why you guys derailed, 290 /290x aren't mining cards.

They are, thats why in the states their prices have rocketed, and they are pretty much hard to get hold of. Overclockers only allowed a max of 2 per person (or something like that) when they got the 290s in to stop all the miners buying them up in their hundreds.