Is there any reason why companies in the cooling market don't advertise the maximum wattage they are able to handle? It would seem that if we can calculate the TDP on a processor given a voltage and clock speed that we should be able to pick in a chart a cooling solution designed to properly deal with the TDP. For instance, this LCS could be rated "up to 300W" or something. At least then we'd have some way of comparing the strength of these cooling solutions against each other.

That would be a very unfair way to judge a CPU cooler. Technically, as long as a cooler is as good or better then the stock cooler, its 'rated' for that CPU. Which is every CPU cooler on the market. The CPU wattage you're gonna see is what, 130w? It would be extremely misleading. The best way to judge a CPU cooler is to simply test it's capability in testing. Same reason why we need to use benchmarks to see the true difference in processing power for CPU's and GPU's. Looking at the specs, no matter how detailed, does not tell the full story.

That would be a very unfair way to judge a CPU cooler. Technically, as long as a cooler is as good or better then the stock cooler, its 'rated' for that CPU. Which is every CPU cooler on the market. The CPU wattage you're gonna see is what, 130w? It would be extremely misleading. The best way to judge a CPU cooler is to simply test it's capability in testing. Same reason why we need to use benchmarks to see the true difference in processing power for CPU's and GPU's. Looking at the specs, no matter how detailed, does not tell the full story.

Agreed that it wouldn't be a 100% accurate metric, since cooling effectiveness depends a lot on ambient temperature, case airflow and many other factors, but a standard test setup (open cage, fixed ambient temperature, etc.) could give at least a baseline to compare products against each other. It would be similar to the sensitivity rating of speakers, or SNR of audio components. Yes, there is some variability but generally you can use the values to make rough decisions about how they perform. Heck, you wouldn't even have to use a CPU, just a hotplate you could dial up to the proper wattage. You just need to see how much heat the product can dissipate before it can't keep up any more. A "worst case" scenario.

I wonder how loud that thing gets, and still, how good it will work with some overclocked cpus, 4790k for instance

Unfortunately most of these units are the same. The only difference is the fans and the logo (most are rebranded asetek or coolit). They are loud, less realiable and don't cool better than a nh-d14 but they look nice though. The best ones are the Swiftech ones (H220 and Coolermaster rebranded Glacer), but for some reason they vanished from the market.

Actual 2.0 Extreme 240mm owner here. The 3.0 kit seems to come with the same pump, pipes, fans and probably the same software. -The software crash, and it won't came back if you put your machine on sleep. Sometimes, the software does start but it doesn't seems to find any device, and the temps are show as "XX" in the system tray. -The pump is surprisingly silent, at least mine. It's another story for the fans. At idle, the PWM do a nice job, but once your CPU start to produce some heat, it's another story! They are loud as hell, and produce lot of unwanted vibration. One of the fan on my kit produced so much vibration that I add to install many rubber washers to reduce the noise... -The rubber tubes and the radiator are of a good quality. Nothing bad with them really. It's not a bad product, and it look nice, but it the end, the goods can't justify the bads. It's too expensive, there is a real risk of leak, and some rad+air combo will give you the same performance. Verdict? Skip, and get a real water loop or one NH-D14.

these kinds of the systems can literally change the lifestyle all over as they can bring the purity in the life

lol, wut?

Unfortunately most of these units are the same. The only difference is the fans and the logo (most are rebranded asetek or coolit). They are loud, less realiable and don't cool better than a nh-d14 but they look nice though. The best ones are the Swiftech ones (H220 and Coolermaster rebranded Glacer), but for some reason they vanished from the market.

A lot of people would not agree with that statement, including my self. The age of Air Cooling is long gone, no one wants a huge chunk of metal in the middle of their build, no meter how effective, its just not looking clean. I personally started using closed loop solutions since H50 and never looked back, since than I have pretty much every model that Corsair and Antec came up with and never had any problems with leaks and any other reliability issues, if I don't like the noise, I just buy some good fans and all is good. So 360 option looks great, cant wait for Corsair's version of it.

Unfortunately most of these units are the same. The only difference is the fans and the logo (most are rebranded asetek or coolit). They are loud, less realiable and don't cool better than a nh-d14 but they look nice though. The best ones are the Swiftech ones (H220 and Coolermaster rebranded Glacer), but for some reason they vanished from the market.

The H220 has not vanished. It just isn't available in the U.S. The new H220X will be available in the U.S. and the overseas market. The H220X has it's own patent pending so no worries about being sued by Asetek.

The H220 has not vanished. It just isn't available in the U.S. The new H220X will be available in the U.S. and the overseas market. The H220X has it's own patent pending so no worries about being sued by Asetek.

Curiously, I see more US stores with H220 than Europe. Here in Portugal there's no stores selling it.

Curiously, I see more US stores with H220 than Europe. Here in Portugal there's no stores selling it.

https://www.highflow.nl/ ships to portugal and they have the h220,h220x and h320

I don't worry about the sound or noise from the fans, but from the pump... and, to be honest, a clean setup inside the pc is only interesting if you're into optical appeal, which I am not, and would only benefit an air setup from that point of view. If there are silent pumps, I'd go for them if one could give me a hint 😉 But I'm sure there are threads on that topic...

https://www.highflow.nl/ ships to portugal and they have the h220,h220x and h320

Thanks, if I were dutch I would buy from them. But paying almost 40 Euros of post charges and other extras that they charge is not a good option. It would be cheaper to order from the US and pay the taxes here.

I don't worry about the sound or noise from the fans, but from the pump... and, to be honest, a clean setup inside the pc is only interesting if you're into optical appeal, which I am not, and would only benefit an air setup from that point of view. If there are silent pumps, I'd go for them if one could give me a hint 😉 But I'm sure there are threads on that topic...

I will give you a hint , this pump is completely silent 🙂 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_eJweOsO9A

Unfortunately most of these units are the same. The only difference is the fans and the logo (most are rebranded asetek or coolit). They are loud, less realiable and don't cool better than a nh-d14 but they look nice though. The best ones are the Swiftech ones (H220 and Coolermaster rebranded Glacer), but for some reason they vanished from the market.

Glacer 240L hasn't vanished. Newegg sells it. In fact, it's on sale for $99.99 right now.

Glacer 240L hasn't vanished. Newegg sells it. In fact, it's on sale for $99.99 right now.

Yep, and that's the curious part. Those WC coolers were taken from the market because Asetek lawsuit. Still, we can see them more on sale in the US than Europe. Guess I'll have to wait until H220-X reaches to Portugal. Another coolers I have some expectations are the Fractal Design Kelvin. The thing I like about Swiftech coolers are the fact that they are tunned for silence, and they integrate great parts and they show great value. Other AIO are all Asetek and Coolit, cooled with 2000+ rpm fans, so they need more powerfull fans to have the job done, at expense of noise.