Want the Start button on the left? FILL the bar with your favourite applications. Noiiice.

Typical bait and switch from M$.

Excalibur1814:

Want the Start button on the left? FILL the bar with your favourite applications. Noiiice.

Or just change the setting to move it over?

Most desired features on windows? If you want android apps use an android duuh.

Undying:

Most desired features on windows? If you want android apps use an android duuh.

I think it'll be useful for some things not supported on Windows, on a large screen. I like the idea of it.

Undying:

Most desired features on windows? If you want android apps use an android duuh.

Is probably a good feature, but i imagine it will be back ported to 10 too. For all that apps that do things to pictures or for silly little games

Undying:

Most desired features on windows? If you want android apps use an android duuh.

But there is still no working Android for desktops. Couple of buggy and unusable mods and that's it. And Google seem no longer willing to further develop Android. Desktop mode left incomplete in very early alpha stage. Window manager is not even in alpha yet.

Excalibur1814:

Want the Start button on the left? FILL the bar with your favourite applications. Noiiice.

Wish MS open source Windows 10 Explorer, so community can update it to Windows 11 and use it. Obviously they have no intension to bring back productivity features. Still, if Windows 11 flops like Windows Me and 8 did, which is very possible, they might hand it over back to developers, so they start bringing everything back and fixing what designers did.

asturur:

Is probably a good feature, but i imagine it will be back ported to 10 too. For all that apps that do things to pictures or for silly little games

It's due to the better linux support than on W10, on W11 it support linux GUI out of the box... But you can run Android x86 in W10 with some work... i remember i have done it following on how to install complete mint instead of the mint for W10 to inspirate me.

Hyper-V sucks. My big problem with all of this is that most of these features on WINDOWS like Containers, WSL/WSL2, Windows Sandbox, Application Guard and so on, all runs on and require enabling the Hyper-V platform. That in itself would've been fine, but my issue with turning Hyper-V on is that it locks out Intel VT-x/AMD-V virtualization instruction sets and features on the CPU to any application that can take advantage of it, such as VirtualBox, VMWare or other software that can run in a VM environment. MS created what they call "native API" for programs which acts as a type of abstraction layer to run those types of commands THROUGH Hyper-V, but this API is extremely slow, buggy, and a huge hassle to even implement. I have a program that spawns a tiny transient virtualized environments to do secure diffs of certain sensitive datasets then expire, and it all runs exceptionally well and quickly due to VT-x/AMD-V streamlining the process. I attempted to implement the native API, which was too buggy. So then I tried make it use the Hyper-V platform, which was too slow. I gave up and just made my program run encrypting diffs when denied access to virtualization CPU instructions. It's about ten times slower than if it can use the CPU features, but it's faster than the alternatives when it can't. tl;dr: This feature enables Hyper-V which basically disables AMD-V/Intel VT-x for all other programs on your system, which then makes programs that use it run slower. PS: You can disable Hyper-V by either using "bcdedit /set hypervisorlaunchtype off" or disabling all of the following Windows Features: "Containers, Guarded Host, Hyper-V, Virtual Machine Platform, Windows Hypervisor Platform, Windows Sandbox, Windows Subsystem for Linux" then rebooting. Unless you actively use these, it's not a bad idea to turn it all off because it frees up access to those CPU instructions for programs that can run faster with them.

David3k:

Hyper-V sucks. My big problem with all of this is that most of these features on WINDOWS like Containers, WSL/WSL2, Windows Sandbox, Application Guard and so on, all runs on and require enabling the Hyper-V platform. That in itself would've been fine, but my issue with turning Hyper-V on is that it locks out Intel VT-x/AMD-V virtualization instruction sets and features on the CPU to any application that can take advantage of it, such as VirtualBox, VMWare or other software that can run in a VM environment. MS created what they call "native API" for programs which acts as a type of abstraction layer to run those types of commands THROUGH Hyper-V, but this API is extremely slow, buggy, and a huge hassle to even implement. I have a program that spawns a tiny transient virtualized environments to do secure diffs of certain sensitive datasets then expire, and it all runs exceptionally well and quickly due to VT-x/AMD-V streamlining the process. I attempted to implement the native API, which was too buggy. So then I tried make it use the Hyper-V platform, which was too slow. I gave up and just made my program run encrypting diffs when denied access to virtualization CPU instructions. It's about ten times slower than if it can use the CPU features, but it's faster than the alternatives when it can't. tl;dr: This feature enables Hyper-V which basically disables AMD-V/Intel VT-x for all other programs on your system, which then makes programs that use it run slower. PS: You can disable Hyper-V by either using "bcdedit /set hypervisorlaunchtype off" or disabling all of the following Windows Features: "Containers, Guarded Host, Hyper-V, Virtual Machine Platform, Windows Hypervisor Platform, Windows Sandbox, Windows Subsystem for Linux" then rebooting. Unless you actively use these, it's not a bad idea to turn it all off because it frees up access to those CPU instructions for programs that can run faster with them.

Hyper-V is faster and more scalable than those alternatives in most cases though. And also supports nested virtualisation if you chose to enable it.

That's fine with me as I have no use for Android at all.

richto:

Hyper-V is faster and more scalable than those alternatives in most cases though. And also supports nested virtualisation if you chose to enable it.

Nested virtualisation is available for QEMU, VirtualBox and VMware, and they at least don't lock out AMD-V/VT-x for all other programs on your system.

my beef is that when M$ killed their phones they promised to add full compatibility w/ Android for seamless work or home integration. then they lost interest and the Surface took off. then they promised a Surface phone (which has yet to...surface). there is no doubt that if M$'s IP were involved it would already have happened but they are not excited about Android or open source.

tunejunky:

my beef is that when M$ killed their phones they promised to add full compatibility w/ Android for seamless work or home integration. then they lost interest and the Surface took off. then they promised a Surface phone (which has yet to...surface). there is no doubt that if M$'s IP were involved it would already have happened but they are not excited about Android or open source.

M$ killed their phone activity themself... On Android and iOS the Apps from M$ are with astonishing work on it... and sadly it was already like that during WM phone, the best version were already on concurent OSes. *edit* for my part i separate phone computer work home... it permit to have real life breack passing from one to other... my old school way of life lol.

I can't wait to find out the powershell command to remove this BS.

CPC_RedDawn:

I can't wait to find out the powershell command to remove this BS.

Regedit ?

rl66:

Regedit ?

either/or

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Alessio1989:

https://c.tenor.com/s76mNafJyZ0AAAAC/see-nobody-cares.gif

thing is, microsoft actually thinks that 12 year olds are going to care when in fact they really really dont as they all just use their phones for android apps. its Win8 all over again, they need to stop trying to cater for every single userbase on a single platform. Each platform needs their own versions and their own love and care.