Ones a movie ones a game ,PS2 proved that cluser **** battles is no fun.

I disagree - i found it massively fun, as did alot of other people. And Again, its not like youd be forced to playing 500 vs 500, if they gave you the option of choosing 20v20 or less... but then the people who DOES want a full scale battle, can choose to get it. But this is obviously getting trimmed for console sales.

Just adding that 64 players was available on BF4 for PS4/XONE so having 40 on this I wouldn't dismiss so quickly as being "dumb downed".

Just adding that 64 players was available on BF4 for PS4/XONE so having 40 on this I wouldn't dismiss so quickly as being "dumb downed".

64 players was / is too small scale aswell...

Well i think its looks fantastic already, plus i don't really care about all that netcode stuff, Im just looking forwards to a new multiplayer game, as im now done with BF4 after many hours of enjoyable play time . I just want it to run smooth on release will do me, all the silly bugs will get sorted out later , for me its all about fun and being wowed by the graphics i don't care if i come last in the matches as long as im enjoying myself . To many people nowadays are far too much wrapped up in complaining that they got shot from around the corner and stuff like that , or another one is all they care about is there kill / death ratio .

Having "500 vs 500" players takes a lot of effort to make it work right. Prime example BF4 and how they've struggled to adjust all the big maps to certain game modes. It's just too much to balance. The only way is to either go full out massive battlefields or the other way round, well designed maps for every game mode. It's clear that DICE are going for the latter, making sure that every game mode has it's place. Nothing worse than having large maps unsuitable for some other game modes. Rush in BF4 was rubbish on certain maps purely because the maps just weren't suitable for close quarters combat. If anyone wants a large scale futuristic shooter, be my guest, go play PS2. DICE are clear about what this game is about, it's up to you to decide. Like it? Buy it. Don't like it? Go play PS2. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy Battlefront.

Im hoping that this game turns out to be good regarding MP.

I am probably the only person alive who is royally upset it has no proper single player.

I probably wouldnt describe myself as being royally upset, but i do think its a shame it doesnt include a real single player... but it was probably to be expected.

I am probably the only person alive who is royally upset it has no proper single player.

Well, BF series never had proper SP. It's a bit annoying how badly they use Star Wars license when it comes to proper single player games that have good story etc. There's been nothing since KOTOR2.

I am probably the only person alive who is royally upset it has no proper single player.

After the last single player "experiences" in the BF series I'm not bothered much. The Only BF with a good single player was the original Bad Company, it was funny and the characters had...well charracter. Bad Company 2 was shallow in comparison and BF3/4 well.... the less said the better in my opinion (ymmv).

two things put me off this game, number 1 its look too much like battlefield 4 reskin and number 2 its on origins which im not very keen on , i already have steam , rockstar social club and gog galaxy lols i just need origin and uplay then have full set of drm clients

So, let me get this straight... Battlefront is an open-battle game with vehicles/aircrafts/etc. based on starwars, what we could expect from this is mostly open terrain with the vehicles and landmarks we saw from the movies and etc. that we can control in all-out warfare Battlefield (3&4)is an open-battle game with vehicles/aircrafts/etc. based on modern(ish) war, what we could expect from this is mostly open terrain with vehicles and landmarks based on todays(ish) technology and cities etc. that we can control in all-out warfare And you're surprised they look similar? Granted they are being made by the same company, but even if they weren't, i'm not sure how you could make an all-out open warfare game with vehicles not look similar to an all-out open warfare game with vehicles....