SSDs with series SanForce SF3000 controller delayed
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maize1951
That's because Seagate now makes junk drives.
SSD_PRO
SandForce has been a hot potato for a few years now. I don't find this particularly alarming. SandForce notoriously has stability issues in their controllers: the 1000 series never was stable or reliable, the 2000 series only became universally reliable after 10 firmware updates or so. This delay is probably thanks to Seagate putting their engineers on the product to enhance to tighten it. Whatever you think about Seagate, they have highly skilled engineers and this will only be a positive.
You could say the same for OCZ - OCZ has been using the Barefoot 3 since 2012 with that other next gen controller still in development. The old OCZ would probably have it out now but as they are part of Toshiba they are probably benefiting from the same vast resources Toshiba offers.
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tsunami231
Fender178
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844&cm_re=seagate_3_tb-_-22-148-844-_-Product
These ones used to be good but then they started to fail left and right. I know this form first hand. I had to swap out some of these Seagate drives in NASes due to failures. As far as drives for NASes go we are not buying Seagate again.
I know that a group of Seagate Drives have been crap such as these ones.
CalculuS
Don't bother going to Western Digital, sucks hard.
fry178
http://techreport.com/news/25940/hard-drive-reliability-study-names-names
i upgrade my desktop about 1-3 times a year.
had about 20 ssds since 2010. BSODs like stupid, when running SF based drives (SF1200-2000 with 12 drives from 6 different brands) or Marvel (2 drives).
Not one (ssd related) BSOD since i switched to OCZs..
now that they purchased SF, it makes it a lot easier for me:
i will stay with OZC sdd which are perform almost as good as pci-x based ssds at lower cost and i can write 50GB a day (vector 150)...
plenty out there...
from my personal experience working for gov/fed gov/military/reg. businesses and fixing/building desktops/laptops since 2000, seagate had the highest fail rate. got worse after they purchased (the 2nd worst brand) maxtor.
the stores i worked for had about 50% of their total (monthly) hdd sales with seagate drives. return/defective rate was double compared to other brands like WD/samsung/hitachi.
almost all hdds i had to replace where i worked(customer and company itself), were seagate (50-70%), compared to any other brand.
some friends of mine had their backup drives from seagate, against my recommendation.
one died within 4 weeks (weekly server image around 10GB), the other one within 6 month and cost ~2500EUR to recover his patients data.
not one of the "replacement" drives (samsung/hitachi), installed in 2007, has failed so far.
look up HDD surveys that will show it easily. just picked one, as i couldnt find the google one that included brand names..
Corrupt^
Denial
http://images.techhive.com/images/article/2014/01/backblaze-annual-hdd-failure-rate-100226259-orig.jpg
27k drives
tsunami231
keep the seagate hate out of the thread.Any time some one post something related to seagate it devolves into hate thread.
So again keep it out of the thread
fry178
WD drives have problems with excessive head parking hence the fail prob with green/blue, the red ones have less problem with it.
hitachi were always good performer but "loud".
i liked the samsungs for very good speed, but still being silent.
toshiba is now running some of the fastest 7200rpm consumer drives (1TB and up), but i couldnt stand the hdd-noise anymore.
so now im running ssd's for everything...
---TK---
Fender178
shymi
slyphnier
every maker share failure rate
in pas 15years, i use WD and Seagate, just recently using Toshiba(hitachi)
there is funny things is that the drive that failed on me is Enterprise Series WD RE2, i only use 4 drive but all of them dead, 1drive with badsector
either bad batch or bad luck dunno...
The black series is good, i guess WD just using same parts like their enterprise series, just different firmware (TLER for RAID)
Seagate sofar okay, but back few years ago, their drive have firmware issue
Hitachi, well its popular in its home country (japan) also the most used drive in there i believe, but people call it "death-star" in the past, so i believe it have quite fail-rate
Toshiba drive, basically just label, the drive+firmware is hitachi (even SMART detected as hitachi drive)... been using it couple years for RAID storage, no problem so far
Well if you care your data, just backup and replace drive every 2years of usage (around 16K of usage), why 16k hours? well if you see google hdd failure report (http://research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf)
it said the drive failing rate increase lots higher after 3years+, and for me 16k hours should be around 3years or more depends of usage
CalculuS
Funny thing is I installed an old Hitachi 256GB HDD which is roundabout 6-7 years old and it runs just fine. And its just as fast as my ****ty green WD 1TB.
Calmmo
Having worked as a computer technician - stay away from seagate.
At least that's what i can say from my experience.
All my non SSD's are WD Blacks. All several years old by now (its just for general storage and dxtory/fraps recording mostly) All the important stuff happens on my 250 and 512gb ssds anyway :P
MasterBash
I am enjoying my 4tb seagate drive. no problem with it as of yet. Had it for like 2 years now.