#5607466

BLEH!

2018-11-15 12:56

Have we fully reached the capabilities of DDR4 yet?

#5607472

Picolete

2018-11-15 13:04

BLEH!:

Have we fully reached the capabilities of DDR4 yet?

Ryzen works better with higher speeds and lower latencies, so I assume we are reaching that point

#5607475

FrostNixon

2018-11-15 13:21

What's strange to me is that the standard for DDR was at first 266 then reached 400. For DDR2 it was obviously double, at first 667 then 800 stable and for DDR3 1333 moving to 1600, yet for DDR4 it's mainly 2133 and 2400, when the regular kits should be 3200, instead the 3200 kits are high-end ones. What does this mean for DDR5? What will be the starting frequency? Am I wrong in anything I said so far, can anyone please correct me, because I'm not great on RAM.

#5607478

nevcairiel

2018-11-15 13:33

FrostNixon:

What does this mean for DDR5? What will be the starting frequency?

DDR5 is supposed to double the bandwidth and the density when compared to DDR4. So instead of 2133-3200 MT/s from DDR4, we're probably looking at 4266-6400 MT/s First chips from Micron have been shown running at 4400 MT/s, projected to go all the way to 6400 MT/s for mainstream memory, plus OC memory on top of that probably. So a 4400 "entry-level" comparable to 2133 is likely. Of course DDR5 is still ~1.5 years away. Maybe first products end of 2019, but no mainstream before 2020.

#5607480

DeskStar

2018-11-15 13:37

Now its one more thing I'm holding out on for my upgrade. Shoot what's another two years on my build now as its crushing things still today. Just wonder what else (hardware wise) will be available then when this is the new standard.

#5607483

BLEH!

2018-11-15 13:47

I've still got a big pile of 2133 and 2400 MHz DDR3 sat around at home. Good stuff with the right CPU. Hell, even my 8-year-old W3680 still runs 2133 RAM without too much issue...

#5607529

Stairmand

2018-11-15 15:18

I've been using some Kingston 2400Mhz DDR3 for years. I said at the time DDR4 needed to start at higher frequencies (3000+) DDR5 seems more about lowing power use rather than pushing performance. It will probably be another few months after release until we get some decent XMP kits.

#5607579

nevcairiel

2018-11-15 16:44

Stairmand:

DDR5 seems more about lowing power use rather than pushing performance. It will probably be another few months after release until we get some decent XMP kits.

Did you read the article above? It already mentions 5200 MT/s chips, thats a whole lot faster then your 2400.

#5607624

-Tj-

2018-11-15 18:18

I assume IceLake will be ddr5 ready. At least that's what I've been reading in the past.. so ryzen3 too then?