anders190:

As someone that's already been fondling the purchase button for an 9990K, I'm not that worried. The CPU I'm actually waiting for, the Ryzen 3700 or 3800 or whatever it will be named, the only reason I would pick the 9990K up now were if it was cheaper. Even Intel should release something new soon-ish and considering Spoiler, I can wait a while longer. I'm bored enough with my 6700K already but there still isn't anything available I can sleep well having spent my money on. But I do miss having something new to unbox and install. Newest part is the 1,5 year old 1080Ti.

fantaskarsef:

Not everybody buys CPUs for multi thread performance.

reix2x:

This is not so easy to understand for some of us, i have had trouble understanding why would anyone wanting anything but a threadripper, that way of thinking was non sence, my workflow is doing architectural communication, and i use CPU ray tracing, so for me TR is the best way to go, but lately i could see that TR is just an stupid buy for most of the people out there who need an amd64 cpu, lately i found myself advicing an I3 8100 for a cheap gaming machine to a friend (he wanted to buy it local and the offer was not that wide), and i feel good about being a little more objective, as an amd fanboy (when you consider buying a radeon vii instead of a 2080, just because Nvidia is evil, you know you are a fanboy) that was unexpected even for me haha

D3M1G0D:

This is good news for Intel. It is also good news for AMD. Really, the only people who lose out are prospective Intel customers, who will now have to pay more for their CPU. Sucks to be them 😛

butjer1010:

In Croatia i7 9700k is 100 Euro more expensive than ryzen 7 2700x (1828 vs 1515 score???)

HardwareCaps:

Scores are just numbers... if games can't utilize all avaliable threads then it doesn't matter. single threaded performance is still king. but again, Intel now have to face Zen 2 and not Zen+. I expect big gains in clocks and modest in IPC. both will make AMD extremely competitive to the point Intel just doesn't make sense for consumers.

HardwareCaps:

i3 8100? that's a no buy.... some games can't run well on quad cores anymore and it's only going to get worse. the 8100 at 120$ makes no sense. you have the 2400G with much better graphics and 8 threads or a 2600 which has better boost and comes with an actual cooler.

butjer1010:

So You're using Computer only for gaming? Please explain me, in everyday usage, where does intel have better performance per euro than AMD? I'm just curious...... we are talking about performance per euro rating still????

schmidtbag:

Throughout most of Intel's history, they never really had an issue eventually selling out most of their stock. That being said, I'd consider this shortage bad news for them, since people are jumping ship. The last thing Intel needs is more people realizing AMD can provide a perfectly satisfactory experience for a lower price. Most people don't give a crap what the CPU is (most people don't even know what exactly a CPU is) they just want something that works as expected and they don't want to pay any more than necessary. The majority of Intel's models with a shortage and price hike are the ones catering exactly to this market.

gx-x:

In gaming. In everyday use other than gaming, FX6xxx is good enough so explain it to me, why do I need Ryzen (or new intel) to do browsing and watching netflix or whatever the hell is "your" definition of "everyday use" ?

butjer1010:

In Croatia i7 9700k is 100 Euro more expensive than ryzen 7 2700x (1828 vs 1515 score???)

BlueRay:

Or buy AMD....... better performance to euro ratio and no fear for new security holes every month.

gx-x:

Name one. edit: why does AMD now include game mode for threadrippers as an option that disables threads if having more threads/cores is THE way to go? In gaming. In everyday use other than gaming, FX6xxx is good enough so explain it to me, why do I need Ryzen (or new intel) to do browsing and watching netflix or whatever the hell is "your" definition of "everyday use" ?

nizzen:

If you play Cinebench all day long, Ryzen is the best choice for you 🙂

NewTRUMP Order:

The whole fan boy argument of my cpu is faster than yours is so passe. IMHO.

D3M1G0D:

I suppose so. The shortage isn't entirely positive since it means they could be selling a lot more if they had the capacity, and giving up market share to AMD will have negative long-term repercussions.

Frankly, I'm a little surprised that they allowed it to get to this level. They seem to have bet their company on 10nm and didn't have much of a fallback plan, and either refused or were unable to adjust in time. In a way, it makes sense - they need 10nm to remain competitive - but they should have at least had some contingency plans in case of delays (of course they're bringing additional capacity online, but it's a bit late). I'm guessing this is due to hubris. They overestimated their abilities and refused to accept the reality until it was too late. Intel really need to keep their ego in check - overestimating their abilities (and underestimate the competition) might end badly for them.

Isn't FX a power hog? For everyday use, it would be ideal to have a CPU with high efficiency and low TDP - keeps the noise, heat and power costs down.

butjer1010:

It's hard to find MBO for FX6xxx with m.2 slot, so You can wipe Your, You know what, with that theory. If you are awake for last couple of years, you are aware that there's m.2 ssds, and your computer works a lot faster? In everyday use i meant everything that adults do with computer, not my 12 year old son who plays fortnite all the time. I work in photoshop, corel, adobe premiere,browse internet, watch movies,....... i don't know if this is power user or someone who do what most of the people do on their computers! So, i need Ryzen or new Intel, it spares my precious time.

schmidtbag:

Throughout most of Intel's history, they never really had an issue eventually selling out most of their stock. That being said, I'd consider this shortage bad news for them, since people are jumping ship. The last thing Intel needs is more people realizing AMD can provide a perfectly satisfactory experience for a lower price. Most people don't give a crap what the CPU is (most people don't even know what exactly a CPU is) they just want something that works as expected and they don't want to pay any more than necessary. The majority of Intel's models with a shortage and price hike are the ones catering exactly to this market.

nevcairiel:

You're just being naive, though. Intel gets hit by all these security holes, because they have a 90% market share or thereabouts. So any security research is done against Intel, since thats by far the largest group of systems that would be affected. If the same amount of research would be focused against AMD, they would find things as well. The current class of attacks is very unpredictable, as side-channel and timing attacks are not something people even thought about when these CPUs were originally developed years and years ago. AMD is not inherently more secure. They just don't get analyzed the same amount, not even close. If the market share should suddenly tilt, then the entire picture may also change.

nevcairiel:

You're just being naive, though. Intel gets hit by all these security holes, because they have a 90% market share or thereabouts. So any security research is done against Intel, since thats by far the largest group of systems that would be affected. If the same amount of research would be focused against AMD, they would find things as well. The current class of attacks is very unpredictable, as side-channel and timing attacks are not something people even thought about when these CPUs were originally developed years and years ago. AMD is not inherently more secure. They just don't get analyzed the same amount, not even close. If the market share should suddenly tilt, then the entire picture may also change.