Seagate presents Officially Licensed Game Drives for PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 4
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Venix
Actually ... The prices are not bad!
Mda400
They don't seem to be anything too special. These are hard disk drives not solid state drives. Could get an internal 4TB hdd 5 years ago for around 120$.
itpro
They're exactly at the same price. You just pay extra for the "badge".
Venix
Well yeah but you tend to pay premium for branding etc other than that i completely agree
rl66
Not even, it's like the xbox licenced one, it's the same price than the PC version: you just chose your favorite flavor (but console one are in limited number per cycle of production).
Astyanax
seagates game drives are known for dying suddenly
itpro
Missinformation. I own two 4tb ones three years now for my xbox. They still live among the living data.
CPC_RedDawn
Couldn't they have used an SSD and taken advantage of the USB C port on the PS5?
The more you sell the more failures you will have. Seagate sells more than nearly every other HDD manufacturer in the world, they are bound to have higher failure rates than their competition who sells less.
Astyanax
failures are always quantified by how many units sold and percentaged normalized to this, seagates have a higher failure rate across the entire industry.
Your experience is irrelevant.
CPC_RedDawn
exactly, Seagate sell more drives than the majority so their failures are going to be higher. Doesn't mean their quality is any less.
Astyanax
Thats not how normalized percentages work.
Aura89
I dont know the technical data off the top of my head so i am not going to say seagate bad or good. But what you are saying is not how that works.
Yes, the more you sell, the more will fail.
If company A sells 10000 of something and 1000 fail, whereas company B sells 1000 of something and 100 fail, thats a 10% failrate. Just because there were more units sold on company A, and more failed, does not mean the failrate is higher. The failrate is the same.
Does this mean you may get more complaints about company A? Absolutely. Doesnt mean the failrate is higher.
What is being discussed and what you are talking about is if seagates failrate is higher then their competitors or not, NOT how many have failed due to them selling the most. If seagates failrate is 5%, and thats higher then the rest, then the assertion that seagates have the most failprone products would be correct.
Astyanax
^This.
Between 2014 and 2019 Seagate had the worst failure rates for 1-4TB drives in Backblazes reports, though this company is using consumer disks in a manner thats not intended of them, the 6TB+'s being their newest release with the least issues.
there are correlating amounts of reports of failures of these Gamer disks within the 2-4TB range
These are more likely interface failures rather than the actual disk itself, but the average console gamer is not going to dismantle the drive in order to harvest the most likely still functional disk, and this isn't possible anyway with many of the 2.5" portables having the disk pcb adapt directly to BOT or UASP usb connection.
most failures reported meant the disk did not present to the console, nor to a PC when connected, no capacity or too much capacity.
CPC_RedDawn
tunaphish6
They had one bad batch way back when that they've fought tooth and nail to fix the resulting bad PR, but otherwise, they're no better or worse than any other drive, relatively speaking.
Reminds me of Western Digital's old Green drives, which were known to have high failure rates. The reality was though that WD had an extra 'head parking' function (aside from any hard drive's normal head parking function) with a super aggressive timer (8 seconds), which caused their drives to constantly spin up and down, which would otherwise kill the drive (hard drives crave consistence). Otherwise, once it was disabled (through some novel firmware manipulation), they were ideally the equivalent of their RED drives.
tldr; Like others have mentioned, it's worth looking at the parameters of statistics first before you start handing out judgements willie-nillie.
Astyanax
lol, no.
The head parking causing early failure is a myth, the failing drives were produced in the malaysia facility and were a victim of material flaw and failing well well under their rated cycle count,
Greens produced without this flaw are still running well into the millions of load cycles, whether they park in 8s or 60s.
TheDeeGee
I experienced their drives over 15 years ago, and not much has changed ^^
Venix
I experienced more wd failures than Seagate in the past ! And atm i rick 2 Toshiba hdds ! In MY experience i never had Toshiba break ... Therefore Toshiba hdds are Immortal ! :P
Astyanax
rather than an idle timer, the head parking is tied into APM which has been reintroduced on WD disks
I have a toshiba 2.5" 500GB to my right thatfailed due to head crash.
So glad hdd's in laptops have gone the way of the dodo.
Venix
OMG 2/4 dead if we combine our data sooo 50% failure rate!
I was just joking on ending up to conclusions by purely personal experience. And yes we are also at a point that a laptop can have ssd drives enough for what you need it with out a need for hdds 1tb ssds ate rather affordable nowadays.
