Hmm. Will be looking to read up on that. Is not HP3? [youtube=kbXY62rC8HA]

Too bad the pixels are so small and the image quality poor (see the Motorola X30pro which features the same sensor). I very much prefer a phone with the Sony 1" 50 MP quad pixel instead of this Samsung 1/1,3" (75% smaller area) 200 MP sensor.

reading these specifications made me feel stupid for carrying an ff mirrorless camera....

According to quick math, 200M pixels with 0.6μm pixel size would make a 8.5x8.5 mm chip, if it was a perfect square. That sounds about right for a phone. A phone has no depth to speak of, which is challenging for optics.

GlassGR:

reading these specifications made me feel stupid for carrying an ff mirrorless camera....

Why? The lenses used in smartphone cameras are garbage and the sensor size is way too small to actually be useful in "low light" situations. Plus, actual bokeh. Smartphone bokeh is pretty laughable. I have a Sony A7ii (pretty old FF mirrorless camera by today's standards) and it poops on anything that a smartphone can do and probably will ever do.

GlassGR:

reading these specifications made me feel stupid for carrying an ff mirrorless camera....

@scoter man1 is right - you will see far better results with your mirrorless. This is nothing more than a marketing gimmick. There's a reason professional photographers don't chase after higher MP counts. There's a reason Apple is still using 12MP for their main cameras. There are far too many sacrifices for such a sensor to have any practical use in a phone. If you have really good optics (which phones don't) and your subject is lit by the sun on a clear day (which is not something you can depend on) then I'm sure this sensor can deliver some great results. There are markets for this sensor but it's niche, and smartphones are definitely not one of them. When you consider manufacturing costs and the laws of physics, there's an upper limit to how many MP makes sense. I would argue a MP count in the 20s is pretty much the point of diminishing returns in a smartphone. Any higher than that and you're either going to have to start making sacrifices or you need the sensor to be physically larger.

scoter man1:

Why? The lenses used in smartphone cameras are garbage and the sensor size is way too small to actually be useful in "low light" situations. Plus, actual bokeh. Smartphone bokeh is pretty laughable. I have a Sony A7ii (pretty old FF mirrorless camera by today's standards) and it poops on anything that a smartphone can do and probably will ever do.

i know my friend ,i also have the a7ii + a5100 + 6 lenses. I was trying to start a debate with some irony 🙂

GlassGR:

i know my friend ,i also have the a7ii + a5100 + 6 lenses. I was trying to start a debate with some irony 🙂

Hah, you got me 😉 I love the A7ii. Wish I could justify the A7iii but I don't pull my camera out enough. When stars align and I get a good clever/artsy shot, damn it looks good though! I've been trying to justify the Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8 but oof.

I say this every time. The aperture of a smartphone doesn't allow for a resolution above 12-16 MP, it's simply the physics of light. That's why many phones have stuck with 12-16, it's not cause of technological standpoint. And if you really wanna toss your full frame mirrorless just cause of "specs" of a damn smartphone camera, might wanna rethink what you're into. Went from a Nikon D3300 to a Nikon Z 6II and love it once I got used to it. Only have 2 lenses so far, a Nikon 28-300 F3.5-5.6 and Sigma 150-600 F5-6.3 Contemporary. Will say I about crapped myself when I saw the size of the Sigma lense and knew there was no way of hiding it from wife with other lenses, lol.

JJayzX:

Will say I about crapped myself when I saw the size of the Sigma lense and knew there was no way of hiding it from wife with other lenses, lol.

Now you gotta get a prime with F1.8 or bigger. You'll be even more amazed 🙂

scoter man1:

Hah, you got me 😉 I love the A7ii. Wish I could justify the A7iii but I don't pull my camera out enough. When stars align and I get a good clever/artsy shot, damn it looks good though! I've been trying to justify the Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8 but oof.

a7ii is fine an more than enough to get a great photograph. 2000e is a lot of money but its better than buying an a7iii or 4. And that is my point ,you cant just upgrade sensors with more pixels of same dimensions and same lenses. Upgrade your lens and get better use of your sensor. I never read an article about companies upgrading or advertising their lens besides " 200trilion mpixels and a f2 lens with nanocoating" ,thats all... how many elements will samsung fit in their new flagshiop smartphone with that 200mpixels sensor ? 🙂 ahh it has to be thin 🙂 and what battery is going to feed that poor cpu that needs to process all this ridiculous amount of information everytime you touch the screen?

My phone has a "64MP" sensor, still takes 16MP pictures... The actual sensor is 16MP but in High Res mode it takes 4 pictures it combines for Higher Res. There's no point in having a sensor with so many MP if the lens is plastic and the sensor the size of a grain of sand. I'd rather have slightly thicker phones, with bigger batteries and bigger sensors with quality optics. Until then, no phone will replace a real camera. PS: that said, the best camera is always the one you have with you.

I've never understood why people even bother mentioning a dedicated camera whether it's a Mirrorless, DSLR or compact when discussing phone cameras, even more so when the cameras mentioned are £1,500+ just for the body. It literally has no relevance to the subject at hand which is a camera inside your phone, nothing more, nothing less. The question at hand is will this be any good and that is unlikely. Samsung has long been driving up a wrong turn and chasing MP while Google and Apple chose a more efficient and effective route. The chase for MP quickly ran out of steam around the time Nokia released their PureView camera, the problem for Samsung is that this camera has been in development for several years, so they are hardly going to just bin the tech and start fresh. Hopefully this is the end of this particular road and they change direction otherwise they are only going to fall further and further behind the competition.