Rumors: Ryzen 6000 (ZEN3+) Could be cancelled and ZEN5 going for a BIG.little architecture
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Gomez Addams
Denial
Neo Cyrus
What a bummer... I was hoping for a Zen 3+ chip as an upgrade. I do not look forward to what BS the triumvirate of scammers (Micron, Samdung, and SK Hynix) pull off to screw us over on DDR5 prices making Zen 4 upgrades priced out of range for most people.
I think my 3900X is at its limit, I got a real stinker as far as OCing it goes, aside from the Infinity Fabric which I have 100% stable at 1900MHz which is apparently not common. Syncing the Fabric/memory controller/memory at 1.9GHz really matters for game performance in the tests I've done... so I guess overall I got a good one??
Syncing the clocks at 1.9GHz mitigates some of the latency issues that cause performance loss in games, but it would have still been a nice upgrade getting a Zen 3+ chip considering I'm one of the 3.5 people on the face of the earth who managed to get an RTX 3080 before scalpers did.
tunejunky
EspHack
isnt simple multithreading already too much work for most devs? how would adding asymmetric multithreading help things? at least for complex single tasks like games, of course stuff like cinebench wont give a damn if its a pentium glued to a jaguar core but thats hardly of any use on desk/ws
PrMinisterGR
big.LITTLE would be perfect if Windows managed to put the computer in a suspend state where it could still use networking and I/O in general, so you could download things or do simple file server stuff with the computer basically off. I also bet it would be great to assign all the background Windows stuff to your LITTLE cores and let the big ones do the actual work, without any thread jumping between tiles/CCD/CCX.
Kevin Mauro
(we can imagine ASUS being very happy with that product codename)
- lol someone in Marketing earned their salary 🙂
I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced something referred to as a "rest mode" or however along those lines (the phrasing can change to whatever suits it best) to encompass what you're talking about.
Sleep and Hibernate may get reworked a bit or perhaps combined into more of a hybrid feature as opposed to two separate entire options alongside a lower cycling mode with some core basic functions offering the aforementioned.
I don't want to assume (for all I know by "fire breathing" you may mean along the lines of an RTX Quadro 5000 or an RTX 3070 / 3080 laptop gpu) however - last I checked the MacBook Pro 16" Radeon Pro 5600M was relatively on par with the RTX 2060 Max-Q.
tunejunky
fellix
Kevin Mauro
Denial
Astyanax
TLD LARS
I dont trust windows or other software to be able to direct workload to the correct cores.
My brothers old AMD A10 CPU is detected as a 2 core 4 threads CPU in windows, therefore 4 core minimum software will not start and workload is favored to the 2 first cores, even though the CPU is a 4 core 4 threads CPU.
If they can not figure out how a 6 year old CPU works, i have little faith in software to work on a 8 core 16 thread CPU with 8 small cores attached to it.
When does work get transferred between cores, and the cache and memory handover is going to be a mess, people already complained about the AMD chiplet work transfer latency.
My overclocked 1700 is already down to 0.5-1.5W at idle per core, i see no reason for ARM like cores at 0.2W on desktop, when memory, SSD, Chipset, USB headset, watercooling pumps, LEDs and even fans use more power then my 1700 cores already.
The powersupply for the ARM part needs to be separated, because a 100-200W capable VRM is going to have too much loss, when running the ARM part at 0.1-2W power.
Fox2232
cucaulay malkin
Venix
On laptops this make sense , now about the optimal configuration 4 8 no ht ...or with ht or 8 16 .....etc etc , no clue witch is the optimal one. If i had to make a bet would be the optimal for now would be at least 8 big cores and 4 or 8 little , mostly because the software will need time to catch up. I was way more sceptical but the m1's performance on video editing considering the power consumption is astonishing , but part of the fast performance is that apple has a locked ecosystem and put in the work to optimise it so first impressions are positive. Now the pc market i have no faith that things will work so well from the get go. I believe it will take at least few transitional generations. My 2 cents at least and i would be happy to be completely wrong and when those things come out find my jaw smacking the floor from the surprise !
Kevin Mauro
Loobyluggs
Looks pretty concrete
PrMinisterGR
Fox2232