Rumor: AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs would see maximum boost frequency of 5.85 GHz.
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Ivrogne
What do you mean?
Freeman
I mean guys be buying high end systems last year and this year we got: 5.5ghz CPU base clock and 6000mhz RAM sticks.
It's mad.
pegasus1
A current system doesnt suddenly start under-performing when a new bit of hardware is released. My 1080Ti returns the same performance on 2018 era games now as it did back then, yes newer cards are faster but the older stuff hasnt changed.
We are maybe hitting a wall anyway, certainly until good 4k monitors with >60htz screens become the norm, a 6900xt can run many many games at 4k and 60fps without issue, so why buy a 7900xt until newer games are out, and there is almost always a delay.
TiePhiter
At stock, yes.
With properly tuned system, not so much.
A Ryzen 5000 system tuned will actually be faster than an Intel (11th/12th Gen DDR4) system at stock XMP, Intel systems gain around 10 nanoseconds more with proper tweaking.
10 nanoseconds only makes a difference for benchmarks. Almost nothing else.
TLD LARS
Same as a lot of the other generation jumps.
FX to Ryzen was much much more
7700k to 8700k 2 cores extra
8700k to 9900k 2 cores extra
9900k to 10900k 2 cores extra
10900k to 11900k Not so much
11900k to 12900k again back on track with good gain.
only the Intel HEDT 7000 to 10000 was a standstill in performance, but the price was halved instead, so still a good jump.
5.5ghz is also not base clock, it is game load boost, with something like 30-50% CPU load and cores that are sleeping.
JamesSneed
I did mean at stock with AMD / Intel supported speeds. We did see with the extra L3 from AMD's 3D cache some rather significant gains in certain games. Those nanoseconds matter if you have to go out to main memory often enough.
Typhon Six Six Six
You forgot the 15-20% IPC improvement on 11th series.
pegasus1
So you are comparing a current CPU with a CPU which nobody has benched yet?
Ivrogne
It's mad indeed, but a welcome one.
It's better to have a much better product improvement for every generation than just a slightly better.
Beside, if anyone bought a 'high end' gaming cpu last year, I think they're fine for another 3+ years ahead.
Borys
IF.... Ryzen 4 hit 5.5 or greater with 3D Vcache Intel will must stay very quiet talking about gaming....
The new Gaming King CPU will be AMD for a long and long time
blkspade
The existence and efficacy of the 5800X3D, shows the importance of L3 cache for gaming. The X3D is between on par or better than the 12900K with a 700mhz clock deficit. So AMD has to show up with more than just IPC and clock improvements. In order for Zen 4 CPUs to beat the 5800X3D, then the on-die L3 cache would have to be increased. Doing that along with everything else should make for more than just something marginally faster than Alder Lake.
Undying
Zen4 with v-cache is coming next year and remember it will probably be clocked lower just like 5800x3d. Still, gaming beast no doubt but Intel has time to respond.
