MonstroMart:

In canada for sure it will be 5 grands. You can literally buy a decent used car for this price ... this is becoming ridiculous imo i'm fine with those price when this is server grade or high end workstation hardware but for something to play games or work at home it's totally 100% ridiculous.

Agreed. Not only has gaming hardware become outrageously expensive, but also rather boring. There was so much more variety and customization in the 2000s, where you had all sorts of motherboard chipsets, PCB colors, expansion cards, and various technologies to learn. Companies were willing to make weird things and while some of it was stupid, tacky, or even dangerous, at least it was interesting. Even if you had a lot of money, you had to make sacrifices (besides upgrading your circuit breaker...), and it made for some pretty interesting and creative PC builds. Now, everything is an SoC or at least directly attached to a black motherboard and is self-overclocking. It really takes the enthusiasm out of being an enthusiast. The only way to really customize your PC in a special way is with a water loop or the chassis, which just adds to the already too-high prices of everything and doesn't contribute much toward how you use the computer. As a computer enthusiast, I started shifting my attention toward other things that were more rapidly evolving or didn't cost so much to get into, like ARM, Linux, robotics, and servers. If it weren't for those, my interest in PC gaming would have died years ago. If a GPU still ends up costing $300 for a 1080p experience, it might die anyway.

schmidtbag:

Shows 2x 12 pins but yeah, still pretty crazy.

12 pin was on the 3080 and various other cards directly from nvidia 16 pin is on the 40 series cards (and i believe 3090 ti?) This has 2x 16 pins, though it's just the 4090 not ti so it's no indication that a 4090 ti would have 2x 16 pins, it's just galax being galax

Martin2603PL:

Hall of Fame? More like, Circus Clown Edition.

More like A** clown edition.. Everyone knows the Ti's are coming, nothing to see here. And yes, It will be $2000. They won't even stock the 4090's. You can't find 30 series either unless its the 3060,3070. So why are they still holding back the 40 series, I thought they they had a ton of them.

Reality|Bites:

Will the RTX 5080 be as fast as the 4090 Ti?

would be disappointing if it was just that. 4080 is heavily cut but still beats 3090Ti easily.

That crown coming off the LCD is probably the gaudiest and most ugly thing I have ever seen done to a video card.

With 7900 XTX performs less than 4090, a 48GB Titan still possible?

schmidtbag:

Agreed. Not only has gaming hardware become outrageously expensive, but also rather boring. There was so much more variety and customization in the 2000s, where you had all sorts of motherboard chipsets, PCB colors, expansion cards, and various technologies to learn. Companies were willing to make weird things and while some of it was stupid, tacky, or even dangerous, at least it was interesting. Even if you had a lot of money, you had to make sacrifices (besides upgrading your circuit breaker...), and it made for some pretty interesting and creative PC builds. Now, everything is an SoC or at least directly attached to a black motherboard and is self-overclocking. It really takes the enthusiasm out of being an enthusiast. The only way to really customize your PC in a special way is with a water loop or the chassis, which just adds to the already too-high prices of everything and doesn't contribute much toward how you use the computer. As a computer enthusiast, I started shifting my attention toward other things that were more rapidly evolving or didn't cost so much to get into, like ARM, Linux, robotics, and servers. If it weren't for those, my interest in PC gaming would have died years ago. If a GPU still ends up costing $300 for a 1080p experience, it might die anyway.

I completely agree with your view on this. It's great that pc gaming is more accessible in terms of ease of use but now prices are becoming outrageous. Overclocking the cpu has become obsolete as tweaking options for PBO is far too restricted, overclocking with the multiplier is useless as it puts you in a fixed clock that will wear out your cpu and waste a ton of power for nothing. For me the enthusiast part of pc has moved on to managing IT stuff for companies and i quite enjoy it. It's a whole different world with server builds and they are very customizable and actually have usable PCIE slots.

Aura89:

12 pin was on the 3080 and various other cards directly from nvidia 16 pin is on the 40 series cards (and i believe 3090 ti?) This has 2x 16 pins, though it's just the 4090 not ti so it's no indication that a 4090 ti would have 2x 16 pins, it's just galax being galax

People seem to be skimping over this assuming this is what a 4090 ti would be instead of noticing this is already a product. No ever seems to read beyond the headline.

schmidtbag:

Agreed. Not only has gaming hardware become outrageously expensive, but also rather boring. There was so much more variety and customization in the 2000s, where you had all sorts of motherboard chipsets, PCB colors, expansion cards, and various technologies to learn. Companies were willing to make weird things and while some of it was stupid, tacky, or even dangerous, at least it was interesting. Even if you had a lot of money, you had to make sacrifices (besides upgrading your circuit breaker...), and it made for some pretty interesting and creative PC builds. Now, everything is an SoC or at least directly attached to a black motherboard and is self-overclocking. It really takes the enthusiasm out of being an enthusiast. The only way to really customize your PC in a special way is with a water loop or the chassis, which just adds to the already too-high prices of everything and doesn't contribute much toward how you use the computer. As a computer enthusiast, I started shifting my attention toward other things that were more rapidly evolving or didn't cost so much to get into, like ARM, Linux, robotics, and servers. If it weren't for those, my interest in PC gaming would have died years ago. If a GPU still ends up costing $300 for a 1080p experience, it might die anyway.

I agree with you about the fact that PC hardware has becoming boring but not because it`s so much easier, i really aprecciate that, but because we decided to play safe and go with the black and silver MBs instead of chosing the ones with garish colors, chosing Asus and other high profile brands instead of chosing smaller ones who took risks and so on. Then some companies discovered that it was more profitable to restrict the number of choices to gamers, due to economics and greed, and we ended up with even less choices... For me, the lack of customisation doesn`t matter that because i only build PCs for gaming but the raising prices are making me consider if it`s worth it to spend so much money to play games... Anyway, i`m already planning a new AMD build, because i`m a little tired of the trusted Intel+Nvidia combo, and i`m considering getting a 6800XT for around 700€, crazy i know, but this may be my last build because PC hardware industry is getting too strange and expensive.

RealNC:

At this point, why not take power directly from the wall? Like your display does already.

like the meme? could be a better solution than those shit cables.

schmidtbag:

Agreed. Not only has gaming hardware become outrageously expensive, but also rather boring. There was so much more variety and customization in the 2000s,.

Wrong. PCs have never been more customisable than they are now. Been building PCs since the 90s. Seems you're not as savvy as you would like to think.

Irenicus:

Wrong. PCs have never been more customisable than they are now. Been building PCs since the 90s. Seems you're not as savvy as you would like to think.

I'm sorry that's just not true, even in the 90s, especially the 90s, you had a lot more options. Sure, you didn't have RGB up the wazoo and various things like that, but you had multiple different video cards, sound cards, CPUs with co-processors, upgradeable memory for not just the motherboard, but various cards, including cache increases. And none of them really worked the same, games looked different depending on the video card, music/games/programs sounded different depending on the soundcard (massively different, not like how it is today) and sometimes just plain didn't work under certain modes, many games required you to actually set the game up with what soundcard or video card you had just so it could run correctly on that specific hardware in that specific way. Basically: There was a reason back in the day there were so many ISA/PCI slots on a motherboard and multiple sockets for other chips It's a double edge sword because while there was many more options back then, it also meant massive incompatibilities throughout, no standards. We have less options now because companies are adhering to specific standards to ensure incompatibilities are less likely to happen. It's overall better now, and i personally wouldn't trade it, but you certainly had a lot more customizing then you do now. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4ms6HCUUAAV3gO?format=jpg&name=large Look at all that customization

Irenicus:

Wrong. PCs have never been more customisable than they are now. Been building PCs since the 90s. Seems you're not as savvy as you would like to think.

Lol no. Hard no. You on drugs? Or just a dumb kid?

H83:

For me, the lack of customisation doesn`t matter that because i only build PCs for gaming but the raising prices are making me consider if it`s worth it to spend so much money to play games...

Yeah I feel pretty much the same way. Thankfully, I still have more games on my to-play list than I know what to do with (many of which I already own) and since I'm not into online multiplayer (I only bother with local multiplayer), I don't mind waiting a few years for prices to drop. Since I tend to play outdated games, AMD often suits me well since their drivers are usually pretty mature by the time I buy the game, which helps make this hobby just a little bit cheaper.

Anyway, i`m already planning a new AMD build, because i`m a little tired of the trusted Intel+Nvidia combo, and i`m considering getting a 6800XT for around 700€, crazy i know, but this may be my last build because PC hardware industry is getting too strange and expensive.

At that price, you might want to consider going 6900XT. Personally, I'm looking to spend half that. I can still play a lot of older or indie games in 4K or 1440p at 60FPS on my old R9 290 - while I'm itching to upgrade, I'm not in a rush to do so.

Irenicus:

Wrong. PCs have never been more customisable than they are now. Been building PCs since the 90s. Seems you're not as savvy as you would like to think.

Ah yes, the contrarian ad-hominem post that extrapolates nothing. Suppose I am less savvy as I'd like to think: at least I gave reasons. So far, the only new customizable feature we have now that we didn't have 15+ years ago is RGB LEDs in just about everything. I sincerely hope that isn't your metric for more customization than ever. There are other new technologies but either everything we buy now has them (so it's not a matter of customization) or there were equivalents to them that they replaced. Also, peripherals starts to get into a bit of a gray area since at that point it's less about the PC itself.

schmidtbag:

Often when you have a display on your GPU, you either have to make the display tiny or it has to protrude from the edge. In this case, it looks like they actually could have made a bigger display. Considering the regular 4090 is already starting to become CPU bottlenecked, I'm sure this will just exacerbate that issue. Shows 2x 12 pins but yeah, still pretty crazy.

I suspect some of the bottleneck is drivers. If you look at the 7900 XTX reviews in some cases, it smokes the 4090 at lower resolutions. I highly suspect the TI is coming to show dominance and to also lower prices on the 4090 and 4080.

fastest gaming graphics card in the universe.

Does anyone even doubt a 4090 ti will come out ? The mater is not about if .... But when really.

https://s-i.huffpost.com/gen/1101610/images/o-STAR-TREK-THE-NEXT-GENERATION-BLOOPER-REEL-facebook.jpg

666 Watts? SATANIC GPU! MRWARRR! https://media.tenor.com/F1gFi3vvcHkAAAAM/omg-devil.gif

We probably won't see the 4090ti, Navi31 is just not good enough to compete, Nvidia will just use fully enabled AD102 die for their Quadro line