Review: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Suprim X 12GB- Super Fast - Super Expensive
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Kool64
sad but true :/
OnnA
It's fastest new driver ver. 511.xx
I mean DLDSR one 😛
NV corrected weaker 1080p/1440p performance (Vs Navi2) across the board with new one.... and it's OC'ed GPU 3x8Pin 😉
Venix
Fun fact i learned about t-rex from an add for gpus here that i clicked and they had a huge banner linking to trex and how to get full minning on all cards ..... A freaking computer store ..... One thing is sure i am never buying anything from em.
LesserHellspawn
I think this card is primarily built from 3080ti cores that didn't quite cut it. Should that be true, then it's good news, since that means more cores making it to the market that would otherwise be trashed.
alanm
Nvidia were prudent (sneaky) not to release an FE. They wanted to avoid any blame for the high price, so they passed the buck onto the AIBs.
Andy Watson
I think this is the case. They are probably regretting releasing the 3070 and 3080 cards at their launch prices. The 20xx series didn't get a great reception and until mining started to take off just before 30xx released they were treading water with share price and sales. With hindsight they probably wished they had put $200 on each.
Does this 3080 now replace the old 3080?
ChisChas
1) read the review properly 2) you sound as if you're blaming Hilbert for the rip-off pricing of NVidia graphics cards, he's commented about the ridiculous pricing in many graphics cards reviews. Hilbert is only reviewing a new variant of the 3080 for us.
Agonist
Cost double what my 6800xt did, less Vram and not even really any faster.
What the fuck is Nvidia on.
vestibule
Quote: NVIDIA can only manufacture a limited amount of GPUs, and they will still need to decide how much allocation goes to gaming and how much goes to other markets. We hope NVIDIA makes prudent judgments, as if the trend continues, the PC gaming sector will die off.
Agreed. My systems have always and will always be cost effective performance builds.
As things currently stand its a case of a fool and his money soon part. I don't see the 360ti coming down to £300 any time soon. That is such a nice card for performance and power consumption@ RRP.
Have to hope that when the 40 series comes out things will get back to normal and I will open my wallet to PC hardware again.
JamesSneed
I don't because of the heat. I need/want a sub 250watt card. I have had higher wattage but here in Texas in the summer my room turns into an easy bake oven. Plus I like a near silent computing experience. Something like the 3070 Noctua edition appeals to me. Anyhow I have decided to make my old 1070 work until the next generation of GPU's out because I suspect I can get a very powerful mid range card that is under 250 watts.
JamesSneed
Its the 1890 MHz boost clock vs the1695 MHz boost clock on the 3090. If you are not GPU bottlenecked those higher clocks should net more performance.
Glottiz
Where did I blame Hilbert for GPU prices? You are being ridiculous and taking this personally. I did read the review. I think it's in bad taste to give "Guru3D Recommended" badge and then use argument "well the product is good so it deserves this badge, despite the price". Many tech products are good, but price should be major factor when recommending or not recommending products to consumers.
I personally think this new card is very disappointing. +2% performance for 2x the price of original 3080 that came out 1.5 year ago.
junior_clk
How is this card mining wise?
Mineria
Tweaked vs reference, tweaked vs tweaked and reference vs reference it will fall behind both.
BuildeR2
Wait, this is sarcasm or factual? 😕
MrBonk
Nvidia said this is supposed to exist alongside the regular 10GB model. But come on, like AIBs are going to make any effort to try and get more regular 3080s made when they can make this trash.
The pricing on the 2000 series was already getting back to the old bad days of over price gouged x80 model pricing. (7xxx,8xxx,9xxx series pricing).
The 9xx series had I think the best price/performance sweet spot of that decade and I don't know if we will ever get back to those levels of sane pricing.
I paid 550$ for my GTX 980 when it came out. What a steal that card was for the time. (Until the 1060 came out 200$ cheaper. heh. Though I have never had the chance to benchmark the really memory bandwidth hungry things like forced SGSSAA between them.)
kapu
This is just NVidia resetting MSRP for 3080. Pure cashgrab.
ChisChas
I said 'you sound as if you're blaming', I didn't say you were blaming Hilbert himself. Why would I take your silly comments 'personally'? They weren't directed at me, were they? If anyone's being 'ridiculous' it's you sir because you seem to think it's Hilbert's job to not recommend a product on price grounds. Hilbert presents products to us, with his views about them (including his view on cost), he has expressed 'unhappiness' about graphic card prices within most of the 3000 series reviews and he has no further obligation to you or anyone else.
Price should not be a 'major factor' when recommending however I do think Hilbert has a 'duty' to express his honest views about cost within his reviews (where cost is way above expectations cost wise ie 3000 series cards). Hilbert has repeatedly expressed his frustration about the cost & supply of 3000 series graphics cards.
I completely agree with you that this card seems very disappointing v the original 3080 that was released 1.5 years ago (I bought a new gaming computer in November 2020 which included an ASUS Strix 3080 OC at £900 inc VAT). I do not think you will find any guru3d'er who isn't royally pissed by the cost & lack of supply of 3000 series cards.
Fediuld
People justified the RTX2000 series pricing to the extend we got the ridiculous RTX3000 series pricing.
They will do so with the RTX4000 series when the 4080 will be at $2000 minimum.
FYI if the Nvidia followed keeping the pricing/perf ratio the same (as did with GTX1000/2000/3000 series) since the release of the 8800GTX, the RTX3080 would be costing over $35000 now.
(the perf gap is around 4000% plus inflation which is around 35% over the period of the last 16 years)
Yet BOM to make the card is barely couple hundred dollars.
RavenMaster
This card is currently on sale in the UK for £1449. That's 1736 euros or $1982. More than double MSRP of the 3080 10GB FE and £400 more expensive than a 3080Ti FE. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from the AIB's - charging people more and giving them less value.
