Radeon RX Vega to Compete with GTX 1080 Ti and Titan Xp?
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wavetrex
It would be really sad if the best product AMD can make is only "a bit" better than the 1080 which is nearly one year old already.
If that is the case, I guess I'll skip GPU upgrades in 2017...
Fingers crossed for 2018, 4K GPU @ 500 Eur (max)
alanm
icedman
I hope it comes soon at and pushes pricing down this 980 is really struggling with my 4k screen.
Noisiv
Valken
I hope Vega delivers and I really "WANT" BIG VEGA to be 1080Ti speeds because my next target is 4K@60 FPS or faster. 1080 barely scrapes it at that resolution on a single card, but OC gets really close. Based on Ryzen, Fury and the 4x0/5x0 series, I don't see a lot of OC headroom with Vega unless they have something magical hidden away.
If they hit that target, no one will say Vega was (too) late because the 1080 Ti just launched (I know, Titan XP was out already but not that Ti price).
Little Vega definitely is late if it is the same as 1070. It needs to be 1070+ or 1080 to be competitive or cost around 20% less to make up for market share.
I know I should not say this, but even near the same price, I would pay for Big Vega at 1080 Ti SRP (not gouging) prices despite knowing there will be at least 3-6 months of driver tuning (I bought 6950 CFX at launch) but ultimately it was super stable after 2Q. LOL!
Otherwise, I would just wait for Volta and Vega 2.0 next year when they release 12bit 4K screens.
alanm
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/raja-koduri-creates-a-bit-of-hype.html
http://techreport.com/news/30113/rumor-amd-may-pull-vega-gpu-forward-for-an-october-launch
https://www.techpowerup.com/222403/amd-pulls-radeon-vega-launch-to-october
Well I dont think it was only 'delusional fans. Many sites were reporting of a possible early (Oct 2016) release, incl G3D, TPU, Techreport among others:
Denial
Hapatingjaky
According to the old old old roadmap Vega was supposed to be released in 2018 to go up against Volta. Due to the Polaris release and Nvidia stomping on AMD they were forced to expedite the card.
The first Rumor came out of Videocardz stating that it would release in Oct 2016 according to the updated Roadmap it was to be released in Q1 2017, which then got pushed to the 1H 2017.
If I were to venture a guess I'd say the card will perform probably 10% slower then the Ti but a great price point, but due to HBM2 availability we will see a Vega announcement in May with a very low availability starting in June through August.
What I don't understand are the people stating how they want 1080/1080Ti performance when we've already had this performance for over a year in the 1080/TitanX ( not the new XP ).
Evildead666
ivymike10mt
8GB of VRAM was alot two year ago. But Today it's not too much for 4K, or even 1440p.
Especially coz nVidia do their "VRAM gameworks flooding" these days.
When Fury X was out fresh. People think that, stuttering it was pure driver issues, and will be fixed in near feature.. coz new HBM etc.. blabla..
And after time, future prove it - that was not just the drivers.
Hapatingjaky
xIcarus
Gaidax
People who think Vega will be cheap are dillirious, HBM2 ruins any chance of that happening, simply because there is not enough of it, so expect shortages on launch, which in turn inflate prices.
I'm not even taking about the fact that HBM2 itself is considerably more expensive to begin with.
Nvidia on the other hand can just slash prices at will, I mean look at this - they literally cut 1080 by 200 bucks without sneezing, they can cut it by another 100 no problem if needed and same with Ti really.
I just can't see how Vega can compete with that, unless it's absolutely stomping.
Another problem is 8GB VRAM, it's simply not enough for flagship. I use 5.5GB already with ME:A at 1440p and it's gonna get worse as we go, especially at 4K and new Xbox coming with tons of memory.
Basically the above makes me think that Vega will be DoA really, card which again is not viable for what it was aimed at like Fury X.
Silva
Denial
Gaidax
Quadro GP100 uses HBM2 and it's Pascal architecture for example.
Tesla P100 too. Also Pascal. Pascal can already use HBM2 just fine, why not for gamers? Maybe because they die not want to delay their stuff for a year plus making themselves a laughing stock like AMD.
Hapatingjaky
superzeus
As usual amd trying to hype a bit this , sadly but truly amd dont have the technology or the infrastructure to achieve better gpus than nvidia ,i just hope make a "nice" gpu at a good price and if we have lucky will be in the range of 1080 not even ti.
ivymike10mt
wavetrex