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If this be the case, then clearly game piracy is no where near as much of a problem as the industry claims. What costs them more, Piracy or Second hand game sales? I suppose since they dont get a cut from second hand games sales they probably see it the same as piracy anyway. Well I hope they have some killer games coming out for the console they plan to use this method on or they're gonna have a hard time trying to get peoples money, especially if this is also going to end the days of game rentals and I guess that means you wont be able to take your games to a friends house without having to lug your console around with you and given this sort of DRM nonsense and time I suppose the next step is to limit game pads/controllers for use on the one console, and then what? limit your console for use on only one t.v so then the only way to enjoy your new game with company is to have everyone come to your house if they dont have a copy. It's not like the industry is even making any games or Ip's worth bragging about really or to even demand the kinda of...whatever it is they want, respect?. In fact its been a year of all the same gear/Cod ripoff me too crap and once great ip's turned into shallow and watered down shells of their former selves. Imo the majority of the games released last year played out like 6-8hr campaigns of pure tutorial-ism, and thats just the first 10 or levels of mp, dont get me started on singleplayer, or should i say cpu assisted button musher as most of them left me feeling like a special needs kid playing whack a Mole while all these pointless explosions go off around me and the game plays itself, but i spoze that's TWIMTBP. The best title last year without a doubt though was Sleeping Dogs and I can guarantee the majority of console only gamers have not even heard of it.

Another sxxxxd move from Sony, they forget that many people use second hand games and that all other things are second hand at a point, still if they keep it up and add this feature i think that the PS console will loose many fans and money.

Piracy is a tiny-tiny problem to be honest. However second-hand sales are an important part of the market today. If they lose $$$ on the hardware, and make profit on games, it's obvious they want to limit game reselling. Some companies limit reselling in a way that doesn't make me sad, eg. Steam... well except that I'd like to be able to legally transfer account to someone and imo parents should be able to transfer their accounts to kids etc. Anyway it was bound to happen and from an engineer point of view, I really like Sony's design. However from a consumer and social point of view, I'd like to be able to let my friends try the game out. It happened a few times to me that someone gave me their Steam passes to let me try out (and as a result buy) the game. I don't know if demo versions are common on consoles, and if they're not, they should be or there should be a way to offer some kind of guest pass (unlimited number) to a friend after you buy a game.

Second hand game sales wouldn't be as much as a problem if the games weren't so freaking expensive to begin with.

I won't be playing their games or on their platform, screw them.

This is why I stick mainly to games by outfits like CD Project, which have none of this sort of krap associated with them. Looks like GAME is going to be even deeper in the brown stuff. Really enjoy haunting their used game selections, searching for a bargain. 😉 Anyway, the PS3 will probably be as far as I go into the realms of Sony.

I don't buy games with protection anyway, they will increase piracy, if they want that, i don't care, they will lose;D And these decisions are so stupid, who let these kind of minds work in company ;D

or should i say cpu assisted button musher as most of them left me feeling like a special needs kid playing whack a Mole while all these pointless explosions go off around me and the game plays itself, but i spoze that's TWIMTBP. .

Now That's Funny Stuff! ^:banana:

Disgusting.

Doesnt bother me, I avoid Sony these days :P

Didn't they talk of this with the PS3?

What if your console breaks? You have to buy the games all over again.

Another sxxxxd move from Sony, they forget that many people use second hand games and that all other things are second hand at a point, still if they keep it up and add this feature i think that the PS console will loose many fans and money.

All other things also degrade over time, and eventually break.

This was inevitable and was bound to happen with something similar to how steam is, Which made it easy to do, and now that consoles are pretty much online all the time now, this becomes that much easier on them. It should of happend long ago, Used game sales of consoles games are out of control same game is sold over and over again and game makers dont see a dime of that, Which give them a good reason to say games need to be 60$ on consoles yet on Pc end there 10 ~20$ cheaper. Yet the is absolute no used game SALES on PC, cause it is not possible with everything locked to CD-keys/Accounts that are all reporting to a server some place. People will complain though its what people do. This has always been inevitable if it dont happen with the upcoming gen it will happen with another one. This is what happens when EVERY thing becomes online and connected to the net anyone that thinks his would never happen is just fouling them selves. I will to bet this is simlar to steam were as it linked to an account, and only that account is allowed to to play the game. and that account has to connected to the net and if you choose to not connect to net it you might be able to play the game but all functions that are online are blocked. Only time I ever bought used games was to find an out of print obscurely hard game to find. I hate DRM as much as the next person, but used games sales of consoles games is out of control. and arnt helping the fact each consoles gen games get more and more expensive, yet there pc counter part version price stay the same. This will in no way make piracy on consoles or ps4 go up seeing to do that its 5x harder on consoles which require custom software, that tends to get your system banned from the main servers. which means you online functions just went out the window, People bitched and whined about steam when first came out now it one the few if only DRM people like.

**** you sony. And i game on the pc.

What if your console breaks? You have to buy the games all over again.

Or in my case, play it on a 2nd PS3. Does this BS mean that i can only play this crap on the first console i use? Now i know why i'm growing out of gaming.

All other things also degrade over time, and eventually break.

When something is made that doesnt break, they invent a way to make it break lol. The holy grail of consumer products destroyed by greed. Games age and lose their value that way, no need to apply greed to them.

What if your console breaks? You have to buy the games all over again.

It should be account based DRM like we have with steam, battle.net and origin.

It should be account based DRM like we have with steam, battle.net and origin.

which is pretty much inevitable, and really should of started with this gen consoles do to pretty much everything being online in some shape way or forum. People will complain about it, I welcome DRM similar to Steam, Infact any and all games I buy for pc all come way of steam solution as it the only DRM i trust not to be detrimental to my PC unlike so many other DRM arnt so kind. NO DRM is great but in the age of Internet and everything being connected in some way to it, It will just never happen.