Patent from Sony Could Stop You From Playing Used Game
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Alexraptor
Copy protection and DRM is complete garbage.
Always has been always will be.
Legitimate customers are the ONLY ones who suffer for it.
And it does not slow down actual piracy one bit.
There is no such thing as copy-protection or DRM that cannot be cracked.
It simply does not exist, never has existed, or ever will exist.
All that is achieved is that money is wasted on licensing and developing stronger and futile piracy countermeasures, that only serve to alienate the paying customers which results in lost revenue from potential customers.
Companies need to get those imaginary loss of revenue numbers from piracy statistics out of their heads.
Because they simply aren't true.
RiviNOX
This should ease the price of console gaming on the consumer. PC games are already this way and considerably cheaper even with piracy.
Consoles are generally at a 20% mark up, due to trade ins which cut in all aspects of the supply chain for developers..
If they promote account based software which I'm heavily into, this could be a great thing. I'd much rather buy my games digitally than physically. I have 200+ PSN games. 200+ Steam games. Maybe 30 Xbox live games. This is not feasible for everyone, but I for one am all for it, along with anything that makes the prices more competitive.
NoviceRei
+1! 😛c1:
F1refly
Mostly depends on whether MS does similar or not. If they continue to allow it, then it will put Sony in quite a bind with consumers who then have a pretty obvious decision on the idea of "which is better".
If they both stop second hand sales, won't really matter. PC gaming isn't much for second hand sales either ya know...yet no PC gamer seems to complain
lmao...ah the young. Son i can remember games costing anywhere from $35 to over $80. Many NES titles pushed over $50, i recall paying $60 for Double Dragon 2 at Kmart, TG-16 most all were $64. Genesis $54. Computer games varied greatly but i still have old magazines to prove some insane prices.
CronoGraal
**** sony then? not like the game industry was lacking without them on the scene.
WhiteLightning
Moderator
Thats exactly how it is now and people still complain about that :P
Neo Cyrus
You Americans got everything for free. SNES games that took more than 5 minutes to make were $75-$100 here, before our nice 15% tax. Some exceptions went to $140 (Earthbound). $80 was the minimum for RPGs by any known company.
They always treated the CAD $ like it was $0.60 USD and they sometimes still do even though the CAD is worth more and has been for years. :wanker:
(.)(.)
With nonsense like this going on and picking up pace in the world, pretty soon the only occupation that'll be listed on your local job search site will be 'Pirate' with a job description of: Going rate of 2-10 years imprisonment and/or a $250.000 fine. Apply Now!!!
Veteran
This, unless the develop high-end hardware for the PC then i wont be buying anything from Sony.
PhazeDelta1
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nhlkoho
Yes i remember those prices too. But think of how much more profit game companies would make if the games were $30 instead of $60. Most games today arent even worth $30 but a lot more people would be willing to try out a game at that price.
scoutingwraith
This will be a generally bad idea if they implement this on consoles to prevent used game sales. Yes i know that PC has not had a new used game market for ages however having worked in a Gamestore a while ago for more than an year i can tell you this will bother a Lot of people.
Size_Mick
I wouldn't worry about it too much, folks. Their music DRM on audio CDs was defeated with sharpie pen, and their master key for PS3 was hacked, so I doubt they'll be creative enough to come up with anything that can't be defeated. As far as I know, RFID is filled with vulnerabilities to exploit!
Oh yeah, and they backed betamax lol
shoja
I thought about this and honestly, it's not a big deal. You can find any new game for a good price on the Internet, so them crossing out used games won't damage people (that would pretty much entire Guru3D and similar people out there) who know how to get a good deal on about any game. Only thing that might cause a problem is if multiple users can't play the same game on the same console.
snorge
This would really screw companies like gamestop.
tsunami231
people still buy from gamestop? i stoped buying from them when they started trying to sell me games at new prices that where open. these days i buy my games from places that dont do that.
And lets no fool our sells here bulk of the sales are coming from sell the same used games over and over.
KCjoker
Yep, I'm old enough to remember those days. I used to cut so many neighbor's yards for $10 saving up to buy a new NES game. The price of games now is nothing when you consider how much more detailed they are now. The amount of investment is pretty crazy really. Of course it's a moot point as most kids these days are way too damn lazy to cut a neighbor's yard for money.
Chouji
Wow... This would be so easy to do away with it's not even funny.
Here's how you do it.
Once the console becomes big enough. A random joe company can sell $30 RFID reader/writers, that would eventually price down to below $10 once the chinese market floods it.
USB reader, can read the code, simply software can give you the code, which you can change, and then write back to the disc, if this is true the console can write to the disc, as per the offline comments.
If it's offline games, then someone could read the code, store it, play the game offline, and then write the original code to the disc like nothing ever happened.
Furthermore a modchip could be made, installed into the machine, which just ignores the code altogether. Which would cause problems for online, but nothing more than that.
For online games that expect an RFID code, this is actually a pretty good security feature, can't just add a random code, would essentially be a serial number built into a disc. Use once, that's it.
I'm assuming this would be in violations of a few fair use laws/doctrines.
VeeHexx
how about rental? would sony be making a new RFID for rental discs?
sounds like an easy way around to duplicate the rental RFID for personal-use only discs.
has there been any confirmed details on the ps4 yet? i've not seen any. last i heard, Sony were seriously looking into digital content only. no disc reader will be supplied.
who knows what the future brings.
Fender178
While this sucks. If the new system that Sony is making anything like Steam that Will be a ok with me as long as you can redownload the game after purchase if you are running out of space.
With a system with out an optical drive they got to supply a system with at least a 1 TB hard drive at a minimum which will add more $$ tacked on to the price the consumer has to pay or have like a 500GB hdd and allow the user to upgrade the hard drive like the PS3 allows currently.
