You could build your own Xbox with this...

Compact Form Fire 😛

I personally like the SIZE of these things. Small compact console like PC with 8-16 cores with a BIG GPU and RAM. Put in a big or couple of SSD and it would be a great game PC. But I am surprised how much MORE small form factor PCs cost vs the bigger motherboard size variants with cases and power supplies.

Valken:

I personally like the SIZE of these things. Small compact console like PC with 8-16 cores with a BIG GPU and RAM. Put in a big or couple of SSD and it would be a great game PC. But I am surprised how much MORE small form factor PCs cost vs the bigger motherboard size variants with cases and power supplies.

Not As Bad As It Used To Be. right now i have two comparable systems - one ATX and one mITX. both have custom loops, top drawer PSU's, and enthusiast GPU's. despite the "ease" of building in these "just add mobo/cpu" cases they always cost more than the individual components. especially as you are removing any options for a more efficient or less expensive component. and in every example you are adding 20% margin. however, my mITX case, PSU, radiator, and cpu pump/block combined are less expensive than this case. (CM NR200P case, CM V850sfx, Corsair XR5 240mm, Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora solo) and while it's not by much, it's an open (vs closed) loop with all copper rad and a far more powerful pump.

tunejunky:

Not As Bad As It Used To Be. right now i have two comparable systems - one ATX and one mITX. both have custom loops, top drawer PSU's, and enthusiast GPU's. despite the "ease" of building in these "just add mobo/cpu" cases they always cost more than the individual components. especially as you are removing any options for a more efficient or less expensive component. and in every example you are adding 20% margin. however, my mITX case, PSU, radiator, and cpu pump/block combined are less expensive than this case. (CM NR200P case, CM V850sfx, Corsair XR5 240mm, Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora solo) and while it's not by much, it's an open (vs closed) loop with all copper rad and a far more powerful pump.

I'm going to look at it for my next build. Hopefully AMD 3DVC or Zen4 with lower power draw and big IPC would be able to shave some savings off the cooling and big PSU requirements, but stay QUIET. Though adding a BIG GPU would just require a WC to keep it quiet.

Valken:

I'm going to look at it for my next build. Hopefully AMD 3DVC or Zen4 with lower power draw and big IPC would be able to shave some savings off the cooling and big PSU requirements, but stay QUIET. Though adding a BIG GPU would just require a WC to keep it quiet.

i love it so much that it's my gaming rig. has 5900x & powercolor Liquid Devil rx 6800xt. absolutely silent, even using the Arctic F12 pwm fan on rad ($11 each and daisy-chained). i'm doing a similar (but much less expensive gpu) build for my buddy. he's going with a rtx 3060 and a corsair aio the CM case comes with it's own pcie 4.0 riser