MyEinsamkeit:

Russia is not the problem, its Putin. Same thing happens with every country, if a president does harm to others in other countries, that country and the people there gets blame for one mans's wrong doing.

You are correct about that Russia itself isn't the problem, but you are wrong if you think that it is only Putin.

MyEinsamkeit:

Russia is not the problem, its Putin. Same thing happens with every country, if a president does harm to others in other countries, that country and the people there gets blame for one mans's wrong doing.

I mean they could overthrow their president. It's not like there isn't precedent for this. You're also forgetting about all the oligarchs and whatnot.

Mineria:

You are correct about that Russia itself isn't the problem, but you are wrong if you think that it is only Putin.

This is the correct response, it only takes a little bit of effort to learn about the many hundreds of years of russia doing this to it's neighbors, this instance of what it is doing to Ukraine is not the first instance of these kinds of atrocities. As for Nvidia, probably wanted to sell all it's inventory before getting out of dodge..... I mean, it's freaking Nvidia, the money comes first.

MyEinsamkeit:

Russia is not the problem, its Putin. Same thing happens with every country, if a president does harm to others in other countries, that country and the people there gets blame for one mans's wrong doing.

Careful there, you really don't know all the relevant information.

MaxBlade:

HAHA as if one man makes the whole nation bad? Why are any of them still in the USA? We could say Bush, Obama, Trump, ..ooh and Biden.

Let's try to keep politics out of it. It's hard, but let's try.

I deleted my post. I was going to say something lol, but I'm wasting my time. So i will just leave it like this, I support Russia, and i support everyone in Russia that is against the war and Putin. Have a nice day.

cryohellinc:

Russia was one of the top mining countries. No wonder they stayed so long.

They stopped selling product not longer after the invasion along others like Intel and AMD

Kaarme:

There are plenty of Western companies still in Russia. Sure, some left very quickly, some didn't. Some smaller ones might have gone bankrupt if they had just abandoned everything in Russia just like that. Some companies actually have long contracts/license agreements in Russia, making things more complicated if those deals can't be honoured by operating mostly from the outside. To be honest, I was also surprised Nvidia took this long, but it's indeed another sign of their bottomless greed. It's hard to imagine what exactly would have forced Nvidia to stay there, unlike a company that, for example, had a real factory in Russia. When such a company leaves, that factory would fall into Russian (government controlled) hands with all the machines inside. It could be used to produce equipment for the Russian military afterwars, if suitable for the purpose. I imagine the Nvidia employees in Russia were doing nothing but computer work and customer support. I guess there's a remote possibility the Russian government told Nvidia that the leadership of Nvidia Russia would be imprisoned if Nvidia was in a hurry to leave, but greed seems like a more plausible answer. I'm from Finland, so I've read a bunch of stories about the struggle companies may face when leaving Russia. I'm not especially sympathetic, but it's understandable, especially for the small businesses, which may have bet a whole lot in it. The worst part are the (short-term) victories for the new Russian owners. Getting a modern factory with tens of millions of equipment practically for free is no different from legalised highway robbery.

They had a research center in russia and they had to decide where to move which was eventually decided months ago (back in April if I'm not wrong) but you need to be sure you get all authorization and bureaucratic stuff before moving employees (and equipment as you pointed out), you don't move entire family back and forth like packages. NVIDIA isn't greedier than any other company, AMD sell consumer CPU for $700 and in the past even for $1000 with no AIB in between and much cheaper to make as a graphics card like the RTX 4090 for example have a big cooler, beefy VRM, a complex PCB with special working to lower SNR usually reserved for professional products, 24GB of cutting edge RAM and a big die mounted on a substrate while CPU have smaller die on a substrate, an IHS and a mediocre cooler maybe. It's fair not liking current pricing but I find hypocritical that who screams greed for graphics cards prices they are fine with CPUs ones

KissSh0t:

This is the correct response, it only takes a little bit of effort to learn about the many hundreds of years of russia doing this to it's neighbors, this instance of what it is doing to Ukraine is not the first instance of these kinds of atrocities. As for Nvidia, probably wanted to sell all it's inventory before getting out of dodge..... I mean, it's freaking Nvidia, the money comes first.

Take even less to learn that they stopped supplying products at the begin of the current invasion, it's as easy as actually reading the article...

Stefem:

Take even less to learn that they stopped supplying products at the begin of the current invasion, it's as easy as actually reading the article...

[spoiler]https://i.imgur.com/ucrfN8Q.gif[i/mg][/spoiler][/spoiler]

Russians will just buy Arc gpus. 😀

Undying:

Russians will just buy Arc gpus. 😀

It's possible for them to buy all 3 brands via Chinese apps/sites like Alibaba, AliExpress, Wish, etc... Although, it will be mostly 2nd hand GPUs.

Stefem:

They stopped selling product not longer after the invasion along others like Intel and AMD They had a research center in russia and they had to decide where to move which was eventually decided months ago (back in April if I'm not wrong) but you need to be sure you get all authorization and bureaucratic stuff before moving employees (and equipment as you pointed out), you don't move entire family back and forth like packages.

Thanks for the info. That does explain things. I suppose they could have closed the office immediately while still retaining the employees, but it would be pointless and actually frustrating for the workers to get paid without doing anything. Plus it would damage their skills after a while.

Stefem:

NVIDIA isn't greedier than any other company, AMD sell consumer CPU for $700 and in the past even for $1000 with no AIB in between and much cheaper to make as a graphics card like the RTX 4090 for example have a big cooler, beefy VRM, a complex PCB with special working to lower SNR usually reserved for professional products, 24GB of cutting edge RAM and a big die mounted on a substrate while CPU have smaller die on a substrate, an IHS and a mediocre cooler maybe. It's fair not liking current pricing but I find hypocritical that who screams greed for graphics cards prices they are fine with CPUs ones

CPUs are the worst. They may have less transistors than GPUs, and don't contain RAM, a massive cooling solution, all the power delivery and regulation stuff, and so forth, yet they used to cost as much as whole graphics cards. However, one evil doesn't justify another. It's not like manufacturers would have been selling graphics cards for deficit in the past. GDDR6 would be cheaper now than when it was brand new. A PCB, ordered straight from China, costs pennies. EVGA stated it made no profit with the flagship sales. It sounds so weird that, if true, the only answer is Nvidia charging an arm, a leg, and a kidney for the GPU chip itself. That was either pure greed or manufacturing a huge monolithic die was incredibly inefficient. However, considering Nvidia itself wouldn't definitely sell it for deficit (Founders Edition), overcharging the board partners is the natural answer. What is that if not greed? A business enterprise's first priority is to make money, so it's not like I wouldn't understand the greed, but it doesn't mean I should like it as a consumer.

Horus-Anhur:

To be an idiot is very different from being s Nazi. Ford was a Nazi, not an idiot.

Is there a difference? Ethier way your still free to be both if there is.