NVIDIA Unveils RTX A6000 Ampere Professional Graphics Card

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48 GB, nice ! At the same time, they give us peasants a crappy massively cut down version with just 10 GB, and we must be happy about it and queue in stores for it !! And at the same time, consider the 800 € price to be "cheap !" GPU market has become so disgusting 😕
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I don't get it... people were saying the 3080 has less VRAM because having something more sensible like 16GB would start to cut into the pro market. But, it doesn't come anywhere close, and there's no NV-Link support. So it's still confusing to me why they cut back so much on VRAM. Sure, price likely has a lot to do with it, but I don't think people would be too upset if the 3080's MSRP was another $200. It'd still be a hell of a lot faster and cheaper than the 2080Ti.
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i would be disappointed. For today gaming, the 24 gigs of the 3090 add nothing and we have seen it. You can buy later a 20 gig version. Here 48gigs are of ddr6 16gbs, while the the gddr6x is faster at 19gbps. @wavetrex define ` a crappy massively cut down version` please. What is cut down? The 3090 is the same GPU as this while the 3080 is the cheaper alternative. You see the prices of those cards of the previous generations, 9000 and 10000$. This will be 11.000 at least. With the 3080 at 20gigs, you enter in the realm of the old 9000 and 10.000 dollar cards, seems obvious. They can't do it now till those are still selling eventually.
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Regardless of how much ram they should have or did not use, Nvida knows they will sell. Nvida are pros at maximizing profit. 48gb is impressive.
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wavetrex:

48 GB, nice ! At the same time, they give us peasants a crappy massively cut down version with just 10 GB, and we must be happy about it and queue in stores for it !! And at the same time, consider the 800 € price to be "cheap !" GPU market has become so disgusting 😕
People buying 3080 10GB got what they wanted. Rumors about a 20GB version went about a good 2 weeks before launch.
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schmidtbag:

So it's still confusing to me why they cut back so much on VRAM. Sure, price likely has a lot to do with it, but I don't think people would be too upset if the 3080's MSRP was another $200. It'd still be a hell of a lot faster and cheaper than the 2080Ti.
its not so much as they cut back, as they didn't have the chips to use in the first place, gddr6x exists in a single density at the present time.
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schmidtbag:

I don't get it... people were saying the 3080 has less VRAM because having something more sensible like 16GB would start to cut into the pro market. But, it doesn't come anywhere close, and there's no NV-Link support. So it's still confusing to me why they cut back so much on VRAM. Sure, price likely has a lot to do with it, but I don't think people would be too upset if the 3080's MSRP was another $200. It'd still be a hell of a lot faster and cheaper than the 2080Ti.
10GB for 3080 is crap, the 1080 Ti had 11GB FFS... the old move was to release cards with enough memory and then the improved cards (Ti's, Supers) would be faster clocked versions. Now it seems they've decided that's not profitable enough, so they release a low-memory version to save $$$ and then release the improved cards which are (maybe) faster clocks and now with "more" memory. They seem to want users to get used to lower memory cards so the normal capacity cards look better than they are.
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Guys you are joking. Everyone wanted a new performance reference at older price point. And we got it. The 3080 is quick and is as expensive as many people are ready to go for. The 3070 is quick enough and 200$ cheaper. This is the good direction. Adding other 10 gigs of ram to the 3080 won't give you extra FPS in 2020 or 2021. In 2022 there is probably a better GPU and we can re-evaluate the ram quantity. How is doing my 1080ti with 11G of memory? Way worse than a 2080s with 8g of last year. That extra 38% of memory isn't giving me anything. ANYTHING.
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asturur:

How is doing my 1080ti with 11G of memory? Way worse than a 2080s with 8g of last year. That extra 38% of memory isn't giving me anything. ANYTHING.
And you are just a troll it seems. 1080Ti is roughly equivalent to 2080, and just slightly weaker than 2080 S. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080.c3224 - 1080 Ti ( 93% ) - 2080 Super ( 106% ) (Or straight 2080 S to 1080 Ti - 88%) If 12% less is "way worse" to you, your credibility is also just 12%.
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asturur:

Guys you are joking. Everyone wanted a new performance reference at older price point. And we got it. The 3080 is quick and is as expensive as many people are ready to go for. The 3070 is quick enough and 200$ cheaper. This is the good direction. Adding other 10 gigs of ram to the 3080 won't give you extra FPS in 2020 or 2021. In 2022 there is probably a better GPU and we can re-evaluate the ram quantity. How is doing my 1080ti with 11G of memory? Way worse than a 2080s with 8g of last year. That extra 38% of memory isn't giving me anything. ANYTHING.
Well said.
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asturur:

Guys you are joking. Everyone wanted a new performance reference at older price point. And we got it. The 3080 is quick and is as expensive as many people are ready to go for. The 3070 is quick enough and 200$ cheaper. This is the good direction. Adding other 10 gigs of ram to the 3080 won't give you extra FPS in 2020 or 2021. In 2022 there is probably a better GPU and we can re-evaluate the ram quantity. How is doing my 1080ti with 11G of memory? Way worse than a 2080s with 8g of last year. That extra 38% of memory isn't giving me anything. ANYTHING.
The 3080 has sufficient VRAM, today. There are already cases where it is getting maxed out or close to it. Features like raytracing, 8K-ready textures, and other relatively recent GPU-compute tasks are using up more VRAM than usual. Remember - a lot of games revolve around the capabilities of modern consoles. Only a handful of PC games get special-treatment above consoles. Once next-gen consoles are released, things might change quite a bit. I've deliberately been holding off upgrading my system because I want to see how much processing power I really need in order to keep up with modern games. Don't get me wrong - the people complaining about how much VRAM the 3080 has are exaggerating how awful it is, because it overall does actually have enough. I also absolutely hate how wasteful developers are of memory these days, as though having an abundance of it is a valid excuse to be lazy. But, what the 3080 has is only enough for now.
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This is the kind of card I really like to see. I work on HPC software using CUDA and my program is core-bound meaning it can use about as many cores as I can throw at it. For my last workstation I got two Titan RTXs and what's really amusing thing is this single card has more cores than those two Titans do. I think there is a high probability I will see one of these early next year. It's certainly on my wish list.
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schmidtbag:

I don't get it... people were saying the 3080 has less VRAM because having something more sensible like 16GB would start to cut into the pro market. But, it doesn't come anywhere close, and there's no NV-Link support. So it's still confusing to me why they cut back so much on VRAM. Sure, price likely has a lot to do with it, but I don't think people would be too upset if the 3080's MSRP was another $200. It'd still be a hell of a lot faster and cheaper than the 2080Ti.
Nvidia's official answer is price, to keep the 3080 cheaper. You're comparing a card that will likely cost about 10 grand after all. The 3080 at $700 gets the 1080 Ti hold outs.
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the Quadro brand appears to be getting discontinued.
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asturur:

Guys you are joking. Everyone wanted a new performance reference at older price point. And we got it. The 3080 is quick and is as expensive as many people are ready to go for. The 3070 is quick enough and 200$ cheaper. This is the good direction. Adding other 10 gigs of ram to the 3080 won't give you extra FPS in 2020 or 2021. In 2022 there is probably a better GPU and we can re-evaluate the ram quantity. How is doing my 1080ti with 11G of memory? Way worse than a 2080s with 8g of last year. That extra 38% of memory isn't giving me anything. ANYTHING.
The prices are still abysmal for the increases in performance. But then again Turing started to go haywire in that regard.
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I'm sure the price will be crazy for an extra two working SMs and 38GB VRAM over an 3080. Just be happy that some people can pay 10k+ for this to keep NVidia happy, so everyone else can get the SAME DIE with just two broken/disabled SMs and 10GB for a reasonable 800 price point.
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It's difficult to buy a card when you use it for V-Ray too. 2070 Super was an easy choice once it was released - great for gaming and rendering at a reasonable price. The problems start with more complicated scenes, where without severe cuts, it's easy to hit the 8GB barrier and crash the render. 3080 with much faster processing and 10GB instead of 8 will be better hands down, but it won't make 3d graphics designers, engineers and architects feel safe. 3090 has whooping 24 gigs, but it costs arm and leg, and may be out of reach even for pro applications in poorer countries. At the same time, NVIDIA clearly states it's not a quadro, so the lines acceleration and top antialiasing, and some other features are locked out. Fortunately it matters less and less, but the problem remains. Yet, there are more people willing to buy 3090 at its price and features. This card, as well as the previous high-end pro ones, will be unreasonably expensive - outside of reach of pretty much everybody but the ones working for high-margin companies where time is very costly.
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Astyanax:

the Quadro brand appears to be getting discontinued.
No, those are the new GPU card for VR and AR. There is still the display wall, the calculator, the office, the workstation range etc...