NVIDIA Pascal GP104 Die Photo
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snight01
warming up the wallets, time for some new gpus peeps.
Fox2232
Not for this small guy. Big things are needed... Vega?
Undying
So no more GTX brand for nvidia after all this years, now its just X.
Backstabak
Seems quite underwhelming, not even GDDR5X memory.
BlueRay
I'm not excited with this. Seems way underwhelming. Sure it will be faster than 9xx series but not that much. And since HDM and DDR5X are not ready yet for the mainstream we have to wait until the next generation to see a good performance jump. They need to push 4K gaming with a single card to the mainstream.
AlmondMan
Hm, going to be interesting to see what this turns out to be. Seems a bit underwhelming?
TheDeeGee
Can't come soon enough, my 680 served me well for 4 years.
xIcarus
I am disappointed if we would not see GDDR5X but at the same time I'm questioning if in the end it's actually needed. Even an overclocked-to-hell 980Ti (only core OC) won't get bandwidth starved any time soon.
Let's be serious, the hype around HBM was retarded - I cannot describe it any other way. Crap like '4GB HBM = 8GB GDDR5' or 'HBM will make 4k possible on one single card'. What the fek seriously. Sounds like the same people who say that DDR4 made their PCs much faster (no IGP).
I haven't seen conclusive proof that HBM actually helps the Fury X to a tangible level. If anyone has such proof, please share it with me.
What makes you say that? Genuinely curious.
I believe it all depends on how they implement DX12 features.
Atm AMD have an advantage in DX12 because everybody seems happy to jump to async shading but we haven't touched conservative rasterization yet, something GCN does not support.
If these guys (AMD/Nvidia) don't start supporting conservative raster and async shading respectively, we will see a huge ****fest similar to what's going on right now DX12-wise. Devs will have to side with one party and ditch the other.
Occasionally we might have the amazing dev which will actually take the time to optimize properly for both parties (for example coding volumetric lighting to take advantage of either conservative raster or async shading at will). Like I said. Sh!tfest.
BD2015
I'd say this is just a filler to make some sales. Not what we're waiting for. (HBM2, 15B transistors)
fantaskarsef
Denial
I mean it basically lines up with what Polaris 10 is. We aren't getting consumer level 600mm2 cards first and we've known that for over a year. I'm not sure why people are surprised by the specs.
Ryu5uzaku
I would think both amd and nvidia will have full dx12 support with the upcoming gpus. Even intel has.
Noisiv
evilos
ofc 1070 will be well worth it(again), 980ti performance level for about 350/400$$ and combine that with 8GB gddr5 onboard
warezme
PrMinisterGR
This is such complete speculation. It all depends on the clocks too. This is more or less a shrunk 980Ti. If it hits 2GHz then it's fine.
xIcarus
rl66
rl66
Shadowdane
I kinda get the feeling big Pascal GP100 will be only for Tesla GPUs. Those big chips are just too expensive to sell for consumer gear. The DX-1 box costs around $130,000 with 8 of those GPUs. If you cut off around $30K for the other server components, your looking around $12,500 per GPU! I don't think we'll see anything like this chip for consumers until 16nm process is mature. I bet the chip yields are horrible right now, hence why they cost a fortune.
I bet the GP104 chip will be a different design entirely. Well still based off the GP100 but with some changes. They will probably kill all the Double Precision (DP) units, games don't really make use of that hardware. That silicon space would be much better utilized for Single Precision (SP) shader cores. Currently half of the silicon space on the GP100 is used for DP units, using that space for SP units would be a much better design for a gaming GPU.