Nvidia Pascal Consumer card announced during Computex
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Denial
I don't see why Nvidia not showing stuff matters. It's not like they showed Maxwell or Kepler off months before it launched. The only reason why you'd show stuff off that far ahead is advertising essentially, at the expense of your current revenue, something Nvidia doesn't want or need.
Noisiv
"the graphics card players' third-quarter performance will mainly be driven by demand for their Nvidia products"
ouch...
Well yes... Showing off with your future product months ahead is not something that is usually done with consumer cards. Due to obvious reasons of shooting down your partners and their existing products.
Reasons which I guess do not matter much if you hold only 20% of the market.
What Nvidia is doing is how it has always been done: Announcement followed by wide availability within few weeks.
Ieldra
The question now is, will announcement and availability be executed asynchronously ?
Denial
Nope. Still waiting for a driver update on that one. 2019 at the earliest.
Noisiv
Yes and they've said they are 6 months ahead... or something along those lines. Didn't they?
So obviously who ever made those predictions was terribly terribly wrong.
Since Nvidia is already accepting DGX1 orders and shipping in June.
Ieldra
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kinggavin
the problem is you can expect 3 years before the next volta cards or whatever they are gonna be called so if you go out and buy a gtx 1070 or 1080 you can bet after one year it be slow the games will need more vram and power and surprise surprise nvidia will say here you go heres a 1080ti and a pascal titan, thats what kinda happen with my 970 it was fine at first then it became slow , from my experience with the 970 if i get a pascal card i will wait save a bit more money and get the 1080ti or pascal titan when they come out rather than rush out buy a gtx 1070 or 1080 and then end up selling it on ebay at a loss
Turanis
That driver will never come for Maxwell and who knows if Pascal will have that.
If consoles and console market not move up to 4K(sweet dreams ay?) then PC market will still have sh**tty cards for "greatest" 1080p.
X80 & Polaris xx for 1440@60fps its so hard to have it?
If both Nvidia/Amd will push their cards to brings us 1440@60fps & 4K@45-60fps then we are winners.If not we are whiners.Unfortunately.
Ieldra
You speak as though 1440p @ 60 isn't dependent on the complexity of the rendering in each specific case. 1440p60 in today's games may be just as intensive as 1080p60 tomorrow.
Async driver was a joke in response to my post
Dazz
Of course weak demand in first quarter cause everyone is waiting for the new generation video cards for both AMD and nVidia. Especially nvidia due to their current weak DX12 performance atm.
Fox2232
Not going to happen any time soon.
You can have 1080p screen at 100 Euro. 250 Euro for 1080p high refresh rate.
280 Euro for basic 1440p screen. 560 Euro for high refresh 1440p.
And considering that around 90% of gamers are on 1080p or lower resolution (mostly lower). And cost curve for resolutions. You can guess that spending for GPUs, CPUs and anything else favors same thing. (Cheaper the Better.)
Steam Stats for March 2016 show that at least 75.5% of users have 2GB of vRAM or less. And peak of normal distribution for vRAM sadly sits at 1GB with 33.9%.
PrMinisterGR
That's the high end Tesla, right? It sells for something like $10,000. They can afford to make these even if they had to multiplex the chip pathways by hand. That means nothing about their mainstream production. There are big differences between "soft" and "hard" launches. Ask Hilbert, he'll tell you. Unless NVIDIA launches mainstream products with availability, it means nothing.
Ieldra
It sells for 5k I think, dgx1 is a rack with 8 of them it sells for 130k
Denial
The PX2 is shipping to select customers in June and has two, smaller, ~150w GPU's on them. So obviously they have more than just GP100 in volume production.
I don't think they are selling GP100 individually until Q4. They are only selling the DGX to "Hyperscale Customers". Which I'm assuming is like Google and whatnot.
Anyway, the mark up on each is obviously what allows them to sell 600mm2 units despite terrible yields. They'll have a GP104 that's geared towards gaming. Probably with significantly less DP units, which takes up a huge amount of die space.
Ieldra
No doubt, I had forgotten about the px2 launching in June though, good point. Anyway the Gp100 is still hugely impressive for tsmc though
scoter man1
^this. I probably would've bought another gtx 970 but I can't justify paying $330 for a card that was $330 when I bought it 2 years ago. If I bought anything else that was 2 years old, it'd be way cheaper.
Denial
But how much is a used 970 going to go for after the 1070 or w/e its' going to be called comes out?
I made a several posts here, back after the giant bitcoin 290x mining storm dropped, that people should buy used 290x's. They were going for like $270 each and they were basically brand new, because miners bought them to run in a farm for like a few months then ASIC hit and the 290x's because worthless for mining.
I honestly wish I took my own advice, I should have bought two then.
But yeah, while a new 970 might be selling for $330, a used 970 a few months for now will probably be much lower.
Ieldra
I'm already seeing used 970s for like 150-220 euros
snight01
time to sell those gpus... time to ride the wave:banana::banana:
for those with the 970 and 980, its going to be a rude awakening when pascal comes out :deadhorse:
Shadowdane
yah I'm probably going to sell off my 980Ti cards soon and just hobble along on a gtx950 card for a few months.
I'd rather sell them now while I can still get a decent price for them. 🙂
