NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 tested in benchmark; 60% faster than RTX 3090 Ti
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Dragam1337
Lol 100% uplift... that has NEVER happened before between a single gen.
Some people seem to be "slightly" deluded in their expectations...
tunejunky
oookay...
dipping my toe into the poisoned pond.
my comments are about common sense, not the profit taking or making.
for the very first time we have halo products from two companies that are far beyond the necessary or practical.
in the past GPU design was trailing behind and struggling to keep up with display technology - i had to go SLI even to get 1080p 60Hz.
it took over 10 years for displays to achieve 4k and we are just now in the last year achieving 4k 120Hz on the displays.
in the display realm 8k is for Cinemas & CES (ok, ok creating as well) not for gaming (at all).
which means the GPU makers are selling (to the mass market) wishful thinking and quite possibly the least effective way to "future-proof".
i'm very glad for those who buy the 4090 that they are getting it for less than the mining price of the 3090 and about the mining price of the 3080.
that said, as long as they please themselves don't worry about trying to please/impress others. you're a perfectionist - enjoy it.
V3RT3X79
in the first time everyones was sayin rtx 4090 is 2.5x faster than 3090 ti , now its 1.6 , on release day it will be 0.5.
Dragam1337
Seriously, is this retard season, or what?
Show me a quote of anyone claiming that the 4090 would have a performance uplift of 2.5 times over 3090 ti...
Denial
I love when dumb rumors turn into "everyone was saying"
wavetrex
As if the 3090 wasn't a ripoff in the first place, just like the 2080 Ti before it.
The last nvidia top-end card that wasn't a ripoff was the 1080 Ti.
Ladies and gents, that post above is a good example on how to boil a frog alive.
AuerX
Ladies and gents, that post above is a good example of convincing one self pissing against the wind will eventually work out.
Reddoguk
I forked out £2000 for my 3090 but that didn't bother me. What did bother me was how close 3080 was in terms of performance.
Looks like this time 4090 is actually a bit stronger of a gap between the 80 and 90 cards but we'll have to wait and see i suppose.
Dragam1337
"bit stronger" - biggest understatement ever xD The difference between the 4080 and 4090 will be akin to 770 and 780 ti, simply from a hardware perspective.
Inquisitor
Oh man, I really want a 4090, my 1080ti is "Struggling" playing stuff at 1440 @ 144fps.
I wasn't able to get a 30 series because of stock issues at EVGA. However I always go for the AIO but with EVGA now out the picture I'm just not sure what to get. Never had a Founders Edition card before... just hope when the reviews come out it's not too loud as I really hate fan noise! Might end up having to bite the bullet and going custom water - eek!
Dragam1337
Get the msi aio 4090
mackintosh
Technically we did get that with the 9700 Pro and anti-aliasing, which was a massive thing back in the day. The improvement over R200 was staggering, I don't remember the actual numbers anymore, but it was definitely over 100%. Other than that, though - and admittedly that is a technicality, as it only applies to AA - I don't recall a doubling in performance gen to gen. Not even the original Geforce.
Dragam1337
The closest to 100% was from 7900 gtx to 8800 gtx - was close to 90% in best case scenarios.
Reddoguk
Jumps in performance will get smaller and smaller as we get near the limit of making these chips smaller.
I just watched a program about seeing atoms using the latest electron microscopes.
This made me realise that 4-5 nm is incredibly small and thin.
The top end AD102 die found in the 4090 packs 76.3 billion transistors, which represents a whopping near 2.7x increase over the 28.3 billion transistors found in the RTX 3090's GA102 die.
This size difference between 8nm and 5nm is where that performance will come from.
Where do we go from here, probably next is 3nm but the difference will be smaller. Maybe 3nm will give us over 100 billion transistors.
I don't know if it will be possible to go lower than 3nm without losing electrons but thats probably 2 or 3 years from now.
Ricepudding
What was the closest like 75% or something from 980ti to 1080ti? in the best circumstances ?
Though I do agree the uplift is not the best considering the extra powerdraw, if it was 350w to 350w and 60% uplift (not looking at price) i'd say this is fairly normal uplift per gen, but the extra power really degrades the performance increase
think a lot of the increase in games that they're pushing are with DLSS 3.0 that think they have shown a 100% increase if i remember correctly in some cases even more
Imglidinhere
GeForce 6000 to 7000 was a 100% uplift. As was the 7000 series to 8000 series. It's happened before. You just weren't around to enjoy it. :P
Dragam1337
7900 gtx to 8800 gtx was the biggest single gen performance jump, which did have about 90% more performance at high res
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/palit-geforce-8800-gtx/8.html
4090 will actually be close to that with 80% at 8k res.
Dragam1337
No, they weren't - see post #39 for correct info. Gotta say though that i find it amusing when younger guys tries to play the age card...
Netherwind
I'm glad you felt that the 3090 is hardly considered an upgrade over the 3080. However the price for the 3090 could be considered one of the worst rip-offs in history.
Astyanax
have you met the Titan RTX?
