NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 GPUs are listing at some online stores
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Monolyth
As Jayztwocents pointed out, don't expect any further changes in 30 series pricing.
Also 30 series will be the only available cards in the low to mid tier until Nvidia have sold enough inventory to justify releasing 40 series low to mid tier (if they ever do).
Available 40 series probably won't be priced within reason either. Nvidia want to sell through their 30 series stock. 40 will probably artificially low supply from Nvidia and not priced within reason.
Here's hoping team red can spice things up, but I'm not holding my breath.
TheDigitalJedi
Thanks @pegasus1
I understand that in business the goal is to make profits. The problem here is that there was so much focus on the mining community. The loyal consumer was kicked to the curb. I know that there were far more sales for miners than PC gamers looking to upgrade. In business you can't totally dismiss one customer base over another. This was a poorly executed plan dependent on a "hot for a moment" market and consumer. The result is that the loyal base that was seriously looking to upgrade feels betrayed.
The 4000 series is around the corner. How can GPU companies recoup the loss? Lower the price on the overstock? Push back the 4000 series release dates but that could upset investors and give a competitor an advantage. Maybe sell the older tech at a much discounted price and while releasing the new products? In regards to Nvidia and AMD, 3000 and 6000 series are still impressive technologies.
I hope experience was gained and gameplans are implemented to protect the consumer. These companies now have experience with Pandemics, Scalpers and Miners which caused the market to go nuts. There are ways to satisfy all of your consumer base without recklessness to gain quick profits.
mackintosh
The only people suffering a loss are late-game scalpers and greedy e-tailers who got fleeced by rapacious distributors.
Astyanax
lol, wrong.
Horus-Anhur
NVidia is still pricing their cards as if mining was in it's peak.
It really seems that NVidia plans to price gouge gamers to make up for the loss of mining market.
And now there are rumors that AD106 and AD107 will support only PCIe X8.
A similar stunt to what AMD did with the 6600.
I have a really bad feeling for this next generation. High prices, high power usage and cutbacks to increase profit margins.
pegasus1
Correct, just as any military follows its 'Principles of War' with the overwhelmingly primary principle being 'Selection and Maintenance of the Aim', Business follow similar principles and many have suffered when deviating from what made them successful in the first place. In the UK Tesco was guilty of this several years ago when it diversified into banking, mobile phones, ISP etc etc while taking time, money and resources from their core business of being a (huge) chain of grocery stores.
Once they realised the errors and focused back on the core business, they had lost a significant slice of their former customers to the likes of Aldi and Liddle.
Maddness
One thing is for certain if these rumored benchmarks are true, this card is going to be a beast. It's just a matter of how much this beast is going to cost.
Pryme
Only PCIe X8, really?? I hope not, that would be terrible for the people that are still running PCIe 3.0, many people still running old gen boards/system that are perfectly good nowadays.
H83
So true.
Companies nowadays prefer to cater to those who have money instead of trying to sell as many units as possible to everyone.
The same is happening on other sectors, like the car industry.
pegasus1
They follow whatever strategy leads to the most successful outcome (quantifying 'outcome' is down to each individual company). But this makes business sense, tech companies are not a charity, and R&D is not cheap.
I am no different, if all else is equal i take the task that gives me the greatest reward, 9/10 times that makes it a fiscal based decision and therefore an easy one.
pegasus1
And what is the issue with that, most products have a target audience. The biggest breakthrough with online gambling and mobile gaming was tapping into the bored housewife audience, same with sports betting ie adverts mid game or fight.
If 30 - 50 year old men with disposable income is where the product will do best, thats life and life doesnt care if a 20 year old without a job cant play BF9 at 4K and 240FPS because he needs all his money for weed, cheap lager and an iPhone 14.
Typhon Six Six Six
LOL. I'll read the review and keep my months income.
cucaulay malkin
yeah, this time it's anti consumer practices adopted the other way round,they're taking advantage of the fact that all major reviewers test on pcie 4.0 or higher, and the casual pc gamer won't know there is a performance hit on his x470/z490 system.
that rules out 4060 for me entirely, but it looks like another weak xx60 anyway only matching 3070.
that 8600 tse sku looks enticing, I hope it'll be released in 2022 still
Meathelix1
I was able to get a 3090 3 weeks after release... 😀 While it took 2-3 months to get a 3080... Guess the 3090 was just easier to get in my country. 😀
Can't wait to see the massive price drop of the 4090 a few months after launch due to them not selling as many as they wanted at a dumb a^# price.
Yeah, it's 60% faster that's nice but your competitor is around the same increase.
People who are saying 3000 are not dropping, here in Australia, they have dropped by nearly 30% - 50% back to the prices they should be. I expect to pay an extra 10%-25% for a 4000 series over the current 3000 series.
In the end, the consumer will be the one who tells them what it should sell for, and we have done that with the 3000 series. Nvidia lost a lot of value and sales due to the prices I hope their stock keeps falling.
Just in 6 months, it went from $285 to $134 - Love it.. I hope it falls to $30 a share.
Krizby
rtx3050 also has 8x pcie lanes...
If there were 4060Ti at 400usd and it matches 3080Ti, it would instantly be best selling ADA gpu LOL
cucaulay malkin
didn't know about the 3050, imo it's a scummy move, most low-end buyers do not have a pcie4 system.even a lot of mid-range systems don't like 56/800x on x470 or 106/700k systems are still pcie3.
4060ti - more like 3080 performance at 450 imo.
Krizby
Well I think Nvidia will be willing to cut back on profit margins to maintain revenue stream, this ain't pandemic era anymore.
Let say a 50% price to performance improvement across the lineup
3060Ti = 4050Ti at 280usd
3070 = 4060 at 330usd
3080Ti = 4070 at 500usd
pegasus1
Maybe but NV may have a $400 million hole in its pot due to probable US restrictions on sales to China. AMD will also be in a similar situation.
Reddoguk
I highly doubt the 4090 being twice as fast as 3090 while the power draw remains the same or close.
If 4090 uses less than 500w then i'd be surprised. The only thing i know for a fact is that nVidia has bumped up the minimum PSU spec by 100w for 4090.
Even though i thought it was on the low side for my 3090 the recommended PSU was 750w and 4090 will be 850w.
My friend who works for the biggest UK computer retailers says they will personally recommended a 1000w PSU but that was for the 4090Ti and a 13900K system.
cucaulay malkin
no,it won't.
