Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 (3GB) has a 96-bit memory bus

cowie

2018-05-22 00:59

omg they have a pos 3g 1050 call the marines I told you guys they are cry babies they seem to look at it as a threat or something. that's the only way they can take shots they cant do it with hardware and they know it. wasted time and money on hbm so the critters come out does it have to be like that all the time like 2 pages for a 1050???? 3g no less good god ya'll

#5548873

sykozis

2018-05-22 01:33

cowie:

omg they have a pos 3g 1050 call the marines I told you guys they are cry babies they seem to look at it as a threat or something. that's the only way they can take shots they cant do it with hardware and they know it. wasted time and money on hbm so the critters come out does it have to be like that all the time like 2 pages for a 1050???? 3g no less good god ya'll

NVidia claimed the GPP was about transparency. Is NVidia going to ensure that the boxes for each GTX1050 model is transparent about the actual specifications of the card? Not picking on NVidia here. I'd love to see actual specifications for EVERY graphics card clearly printed on the packaging.... Whether it's AMD or NVidia, makes no difference. The specifications for the product inside the box, should be clearly printed on the box.

#5548875

DLD

2018-05-22 01:42

Useless.

#5548877

Monchis

2018-05-22 01:45

rl66:

Not so underpowered... the GTX1050Ti once OC is just below GTX1060 3g in most case, not bad for a 100Euro less GPU, and for the price you have 1 more gig. Also the new GTX1050 3g is intended for casual gaming and entry level, i think it's a good move as the original GTX1050 is weaker than the GTX950 that it's intended to replace. And stop crying about the memory interface: - again it's entry level 64, 96, 128... it's more or less the same with those GPU. - the bit is the "size" of the road the frequency is the "autorised speed", Why should NVidia would ever put a 4096 wide bus (as an exemple, there is no HBM GTX1050 of course) on such a GPU?

3118 overclocked vs 4285 stock in timespy, tell different class of cards: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1060_gaming_x_3gb_review,28.html http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/galax-kfa2-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-exoc-review,34.html Also you should know that things like bandwidth are very prone to cause botlenecks, even in stuff as entry level as the gt 1030, so these kind of practices are lame: [youtube=-7yLkSE0k5A]

#5548882

Noisiv

2018-05-22 02:04

more shaders. higher clock, more mem should be AT LEAST as fast as the old 1050 someone remind me what are we crying about this time 😀

#5548886

cowie

2018-05-22 02:27

sykozis:

NVidia claimed the GPP was about transparency. Is NVidia going to ensure that the boxes for each GTX1050 model is transparent about the actual specifications of the card? Not picking on NVidia here. I'd love to see actual specifications for EVERY graphics card clearly printed on the packaging.... Whether it's AMD or NVidia, makes no difference. The specifications for the product inside the box, should be clearly printed on the box.

there is no gpp only the same thing both sides do all the time at this point I would take a 3g 580 or 560 for that matter they got nuttin and you don't care aamof the last dgpu they put out was a similar card a low buget pos that got lower so its the ram and bit size? big deal you don't need to care after the people looking at the same box with two brands did not make you warm and fuzzy inside

#5548892

ObscureangelPT

2018-05-22 02:50

I fully understand the nvidia move, but still it's an idiot move. Memories are expensive AF lately as we all know Having a 96 bits instead of 128 bits, allows them to save in 1 extra DRAM per card. Obviously 96 bits (or 92 bit's) cuts a lot of bandwidth, but also nvidia have been evolving a lot their memory compression algorithms and culling to prevent that a lot of bandwidth is thrown to the GPU. None of the less, it's still an idiot move!

#5548893

DLD

2018-05-22 02:52

Greedy company is finding ways and excuses to get rid of tons of chips in order to make clearance for the upcoming gen...

#5548896

sykozis

2018-05-22 03:08

cowie:

there is no gpp only the same thing both sides do all the time at this point I would take a 3g 580 or 560 for that matter they got nuttin and you don't care aamof the last dgpu they put out was a similar card a low buget pos that got lower so its the ram and bit size? big deal you don't need to care after the people looking at the same box with two brands did not make you warm and fuzzy inside

You get too worked up over things. All I want, is the specs printed clearly on the box. That's the first and only necessary step in transparency.

#5548898

user1

2018-05-22 03:15

Wonder why they didn't opt for 8gbps or 9gbps memory, seems like it may be pretty badly crippled ,30% is a huge loss in memory bandwidth , will be curious to see how it performs. Seems like the sort of thing that should have a new name, so as to not confuse the consumer. 🙄 opting for 8gbps memory would have reduced the cripple factor to just -16% opting for 9gbps memory reduces it to -4%

#5548904

cowie

2018-05-22 03:54

sykozis:

You get too worked up over things. All I want, is the specs printed clearly on the box. That's the first and only necessary step in transparency.

I agree on that but I did not think I had to tell you I try to over drama the drama:D this is the news you click on and move on not comment on the injustice lol its going cheaper to who ever is selling them like hp could be 33 dollars cheaper over some other pos sell it in china or mexico or south America where they play that game called someone who wants it 33 dollars cheaper you might not have played that game i never did and for damn sure I don't want any 1050 let alone a chicken with no legs 3g pos. so really look at it helping someone save 33 dollars and they seen it was a pos 3g of course. nv and amd both sucking ballzzz right now plus the fact that the retailers are super happy that we are happy to only see 75-100 over msrp ha ha like digging our own graves

#5548908

sykozis

2018-05-22 05:04

cowie:

I agree on that but I did not think I had to tell you I try to over drama the drama:D this is the news you click on and move on not comment on the injustice lol its going cheaper to who ever is selling them like hp could be 33 dollars cheaper over some other pos sell it in china or mexico or south America where they play that game called someone who wants it 33 dollars cheaper you might not have played that game i never did and for damn sure I don't want any 1050 let alone a chicken with no legs 3g pos. so really look at it helping someone save 33 dollars and they seen it was a pos 3g of course. nv and amd both sucking ballzzz right now plus the fact that the retailers are super happy that we are happy to only see 75-100 over msrp ha ha like digging our own graves

I didn't see the issue with the GPP other than the lack of claimed transparency. If you're going to be transparent, be transparent. Print the product specs on the damn box again. If NVidia were to require AIB's to print the specs on the box, I wouldn't have an issue with products like these. When I bought my old GT640, the shop I bought it from had to test several cards to find me a Kepler based card. Had the specs been on the box, they wouldn't have had to go through the hassle. This particular card, would be fine as an HTPC card or for those that play older games like TL2 that aren't so demanding.

#5548948

Venix

2018-05-22 09:07

Now i wonder how much this will criple the cards perfomance. Is not as severe as going with ddr 4 but still quiet the cut , maybe the 1050 is not starved at all? We will see soon i gues 😛

#5548990

olymind1

2018-05-22 10:52

The next similiar card could be a 1060 with 4.5 GB vram on a 160 or 144 bit bus with same number of Cuda cores as 1060 3GB. They could name it to 1055 and sell it cheaper than 1060 3 GB. It could be a great transition between 1050 TI 4 GB and 1060 6 GB performance wise if the price would be closer to the 1050 TI than to the 1060 3 GB.

#5549071

schmidtbag

2018-05-22 14:37

sykozis:

They did the same thing with the GT640....

I think the 640 only had 2 "flavors" (which is still a bit stupid). I think there were a handful of products that were like this, but the 630 is the only one to my knowledge that had 3.

#5549087

Yxskaft

2018-05-22 15:09

Yeah it's not as bad as when Nvidia had three versions of GT 730, one of them being Fermi. This card will at least look more appealing for those who wants a cheaper card supporting Netflix 4k. I'm not planning to upgrade my HTPC until hardware decoding for AV1 is out, but it's a damn shame that the x10 lineup has died out.

#5549093

schmidtbag

2018-05-22 15:18

Yxskaft:

Yeah it's not as bad as when Nvidia had three versions of GT 730, one of them being Fermi.

Ah so the 630 wasn't the only one with 3 variants. Now I'm curious what else is the same.

This card will at least look more appealing for those who wants a cheaper card supporting Netflix 4k. I'm not planning to upgrade my HTPC until hardware decoding for AV1 is out, but it's a damn shame that the x10 lineup has died out.

I'd rather just get an i3 8100 or Ryzen 3 2200G. To my knowledge, both of those support 4K and cost less than a 1050. Sure, they don't come with RAM, but if you're building a new PC for 4K playback purposes, these CPUs seem like a smarter choice. If you intend to just upgrade your PC for 4K playback, the GT 1030 makes for a better option. It too has 4K support, can be passively cooled, has low-profile options, and is a bit cheaper.

#5549095

Yxskaft

2018-05-22 15:22

schmidtbag:

Ah so the 630 wasn't the only one with 3 variants. Now I'm curious what else is the same. I'd rather just get an i3 8100 or Ryzen 3 2200G. To my knowledge, both of those support 4K and cost less than a 1050. Sure, they don't come with RAM, but if you're building a new PC for 4K playback purposes, these CPUs seem like a smarter choice. If you intend to just upgrade your PC for 4K playback, the GT 1030 makes for a better option. It too has 4K support, can be passively cooled, has low-profile options, and is a bit cheaper.

The negative thing with the GT 1030 though is that it only has 2GB VRAM, and Netflix 4k requires 3GB VRAM. But yeah, getting a Ryzen APU or Coffee Lake i3 is actually viable compared to the cost of a discrete card right now.

#5549101

schmidtbag

2018-05-22 15:32

Yxskaft:

The negative thing with the GT 1030 though is that it only has 2GB VRAM, and Netflix 4k requires 3GB VRAM.

Is 3GB recommended or is Netflix legitimately non-functional without 3GB? Because keep in mind, modern GPUs in modern OSes will feed from SDRAM in the event the VRAM runs out, so it should in theory still be usable, despite Netflix's recommendation. I could totally see 3GB just being a "strong recommendation" for the sake of the best user-experience, but I would be surprised if having less would prevent you from watching something.

#5549173

illrigger

2018-05-22 18:43

Bear in mind the 1030 (like all cards marked "GT" instead of "GTX") does not have an NVENC engine. That means no hardware encode support and limited decode support, pushing a lot more work back on the CPU. If you are *only* doing playback of 4K, you can get away with it, but add in pretty much anything else and it pukes all over itself. And, of course, if 4K playback is all you are after, there are a lot better and cheaper options out there than an HTPC.