Nvidia faces Class Action Lawsuit over GTX 970 Memory Debacle
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TheDeeGee
What has been advertised that has been Falls information?
Cuz ROPs, L2 Cache, Bus Speeds, Core Speeds are specs given to Reviewers and have nothing to do with advertisments towards the consumer.
rflair
Moderator
So review sites in turn 'advertise' the specs to us which Nvidia gave falsely and Nvidia washes their hands of everything.
It really is disappointing to see people have no respect for themselves to even say something here wasn't right.
Edit: Take these companies to task.
TheDeeGee
Just saying, legally they have done nothing wrong.
Doesn't mean it stinks underneat.
Neo Cyrus
Legally they knew damn well that reviewers are giving out the false specs they gave the reviewers. It was blatantly intentional which is why they chose to not correct it until their cover was blown. We all knew this class action lawsuit was coming and even though a victory would grant consumers almost nothing it'd be a moral victory that's necessary.
It'll damage nVidia's reputation enough that they'll think twice about pulling such BS again. Doesn't mean they won't do shady BS anymore, they'll think harder about it however.
sykozis
Review sites are considered an advertising outlet. So, technically, NVidia did commit to false advertising.
They provided review sites with incorrect information. Those review sites advertised the products on behalf of NVidia. Thus, false advertising. NVidia is directly responsible for the technical information posted by review sites since NVidia itself was the source of the information.
Fender178
They gave reviewers misinformation which is fraud and false advertising which is illegal.
Fox2232
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-980/specifications
Both from start state: Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 224
One of them is big lie. Not that it matters once one joins church of sorry.
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Noisiv
Well he's right: The only thing that was really wrong L2/ROPs hasn't even been advertised.
Making a case of false advertising due to highly technical stuff being wrong is no simple task.
And claiming that L2/ROPs have anything to do with anyone's purchasing decision is simply dishonest, same as Nvidia claiming 4GB of VRAM.
Instead I reckon that the case can be made about technically true, but still misleading 4GB.
fantaskarsef
This will be settled by some kind of payment before there's an actual outcome of any court trials whatsoever. This won't change much for most people having a 970, and certainly not for those who sent it back and got something else. The ones making the most money out of this will be the law firm anyway.
TeX_UK
Haha how many millions is the class action for.....
TeX_UK
I doubt it because lots more hoping to make a quick buck will come out of the woodwork that's what they do in the USA.
stevevnicks
im keeping my both my gtx970
but how i see it is, if Nvidia/Hardware review sites said the gtx 970 hardware has these spec's but what you own does not then you have been mislead/wrong impression about the hardware, does not matter if performance has not changed.
you were still mislead, this could of been forgiven, if the info had been updated before release of the hardware.
even though im keeping both my GTX970's i don't want any compensation, im happy enuff with the performance, i just want Nvidia to see they cant get away with this way of business scot-free/to get away without penalty.
although if the penalty does not out weigh any proven profit gained then it wont matter to any business as long as there is still profits to be made its all good it's all about the money.
moab600
they shouldn't get away with this, that will probably go in future review of any card, which is good.
But i though about it, those "lied" specs are even more impressive now, the "light" version of 970 is awesome, still best card to buy...
Wonder how all will end, nvidia can't win this lawsuit.
Neo Cyrus
Those who fill out the paperwork after 5+ years of waiting will get a check for $20, that's how it will end... and nVidia will deny that they did anything wrong to the bitter end.
stevevnicks
yea thats what i said when they first found out about true spec's
the reality of it just makes the maxwell architecture look even more efficient.
sykozis
There is no class-action suit yet. A lawsuit has been filed, and a request for class-action status has been made. You can NOT simply file a class-action lawsuit. It generally takes several months to years for a lawsuit to ever reach class-action status.
By the time this suit even obtains "class-action certification", most people will have forgotten all about this fiasco and NVidia will have made enough money that the outcome will be meaningless to them. Those that join the suit as class members, will only get pennies compared to what the lawyers get and NVidia will be no worse off than they were before hand. You would have to go after NVidia for the total cost of each card sold to even make a dent in them financially.
Spets
Looking at something from a legal point of view doesn't mean someone has no respect for themselves.
If you plan on taking a large company to court for false marketing, you're going to need more than a misrepresentation in guidelines sent to reviewers. The specs given to consumers don't actually indicate the number of ROPs or the L2 cache size. All we're pointing out is the lawsuit won't go far because it's not as black and white as people suggest it to be.
Frances
This is unfortunately correct unless this leads to a new ruling.
It totally sucks what Nvidia did but we must think about how this affects future products.
Do you really want a bunch bureaucrats overseeing any new chip coming out of w/e? No you don't, because as consumers this is only going to make our wallets lighter.
As we are enthusiasts we buy products based on what they can do, not what they listed as specs. Specs are just ePeen points. I hope this is handled responsibly.
Reddoguk
Nvidia out in Santa Carla CA is a huge Company with all sorts of connections.
Remember This: http://www.nvidia.com/object/legal_info.html
Every time you install a new driver you agree to give away the first born child to Nvidia for safe keeping ^^. First of all you need to explain why these legal docs you've signed don't count for nothing.
That will be hard enough to do since Nvidia puts it there for a reason, it's like the firewall and only the top legal people in the world could get past that stage.
I seriously doubt there's enough to make a case, Nvidia just replies with, well a mistake happened somewhere in the process and we have offered a full return on all the effected cards plus we have it in the Legal page of our website and drivers.
End of i think. I've done Jury duty so i can think as one now and i can't see "enough" to make a strong case.
Unless we know for a fact that Nvidia did it on purpose then there is nothing. I think it was just a cawk up but for how long did they know? The longer they knew the shi**ier it is.
Fender178
This is not correct. Nvidia did do something wrong by giving out the wrong information to the public which is false advertising. Plus it is fraud.
