Nvidia Big Pascal GP100 To Debut in April - Mid Range GTX 1080 in June

-Tj-

2016-01-27 13:31

This probably best describes it. I wouldn't put too much faith in this leak. I doubt a big card is coming in April.

Well it did with Kepler when this ripoff milking titan bs started 😀 and then followed with maxwell, so it could be some truth in it..

#5223806

lmimmfn

2016-01-27 13:33

I shall wait for the Ti & AMD's offerings.

#5223807

Denial

2016-01-27 13:34

Well it did with Kepler when this ripoff milking titan bs started 😀 and then followed with maxwell, so it could be some truth in it..

In what regard? Can't you call a 7970 a midrange card then? I mean we all know the max die size that's essentially manufacturerable is roughly ~600mm2. So anything half that is effectively half a card. Which I guess at that point you can just say is a midrange card. Both AMD and Nvidia launched ~300mm2 cards in 2012 because 28nm yields weren't good. If Nvidia or AMD launched a 600mm2 card on 28nm in 2012 they would have cost upwards of $1000. Also wouldn't this leak be the reverse? They launched "midranged" stuff first with Kepler. Anyway I don't know what card they will be launching first, I just don't think a big card will happen in April.

#5223813

-Tj-

2016-01-27 13:43

? What, I only commented on titan release timeframe (q1 march-april) and nothing else. Gk100 was the first titan inbreed wasnt it, released around february, no?

#5223814

Ieldra

2016-01-27 13:43

The x80 was was the top tier before, but die area has been increasing. Bigger dies are more expensive dies. Essentially x80 should still be considered high end, GP100 is a gpu designed for hpc - I expect GP104 will perform roughly on par with a 980ti, perhaps +10%.

#5223816

Denial

2016-01-27 13:45

? What, i coonly mmented on titan release timeframe (q1 march-april) and nothing else.

That's why I asked in what regard, I didn't know what you were referring too.

#5223821

RzrTrek

2016-01-27 13:50

High-End: TITAN XXX/1080Ti Mid-Range: 1080/1070/1060

That makes more sense.

#5223826

vbetts

Moderator

2016-01-27 13:59

1080 huh? Every title better play at least 1080! :P

#5223827

kinggavin

2016-01-27 14:01

So instead of having textures which are 1024 x 1024, you want to make textures 4096 x 4096? I honestly do not know what you mean by 4K - please elaborate.

hi yes i think nvidia will say game on 4k monitor with pascal , but the new pascal titan i think it will be first ,its not such a bad move to buy a pascal titan if its out first because it will be the top card maybe 32gb vram , then they will release 1080 and 1070 ,with say 8gb lots peope will buy them then they games will come out that need 12gb vram and nvidia will go release a 1080ti with 16gb vram , so if u got money just get the titan the top card and then ur safe with regards to vram, i had that issue with my 970 said it had 4gb then it was 3.5gb then all the games need 5gb or 6gb vram so i wont buy a 1070 or 1080 unless they got 16gb vram but cant see nvidias doing that , so i save more get a titan

#5223828

rl66

2016-01-27 14:02

Don't worry about the price, it will cost more than it should.

that is the only fact in here 🙂 lol i agree at 200%

#5223829

fantaskarsef

2016-01-27 14:03

Well it did with Kepler when this ripoff milking titan bs started 😀 and then followed with maxwell, so it could be some truth in it..

Just like I see it, if they can keep it up with manufacturing and shipping processes, they will do it just like they did with Maxwell and Kepler... keeps the cashflow predictable for the shareholder's report. Unless they have problems, I don't see them changing their schedule.

#5223832

TheF34RChannel

2016-01-27 14:06

So it's a road map made by someone with too much free time on his hands, filled with question marks? I'm sorry but how is this news? It's not even a good rumour.

#5223835

slyphnier

2016-01-27 14:12

that roadmap originally from ascii.jp i think : http://ascii.jp/elem/000/001/109/1109096/ topic highlight on that page: press release GP100Pascal expected on GTC april2016 GP100 die-size 450mm² press release of GTX1080 expected on Computex june2016 Volta schedule on 2017 is depend on TSMC

#5223849

Herem

2016-01-27 14:29

So it's a road map made by someone with too much free time on his hands, filled with question marks? I'm sorry but how is this news? It's not even a good rumour.

Exactly, I can't believe the amount of people getting excited about a PowerPoint which even has '?s' beside the model numbers. If the person creating this 'roadmap' isn't even certain of the model numbers then everything else is obviously just pure speculation as well. I'm not saying that there isn't a possibility that some of these dates might turn out to be right, but if they are it'll be due to luck rather than having deep inside knowledge.

#5223892

Texter

2016-01-27 15:43

The x80 was was the top tier before, but die area has been increasing. Bigger dies are more expensive dies.

There is no direct correlation between nVidia's inflated pricing and production cost. Fermi allegedly cost them dearly yet they remained profitable with fierce AMD competition, Maxwell is dirt cheap on a mature node, yet prices have more than doubled since 2011.

#5223910

Solfaur

2016-01-27 16:14

that is the only fact in here 🙂 lol i agree at 200%

That's a 300% certainty. :P If AMD doesn't step up their game, and I doubt they will, nvidia will continue these obscene prices, just like Intel - because they can, and we WILL pay them. :wanker: I doubt there will be a Pascal best bang for buck like the 970 was when it launched (yes, yes, 3.5GB vram yada yada... they are still the best price performance cards I had in YEARS) and I'm pretty sure the whole line-up will be premium priced. Rant off... I will be surprised if they come out this early though.

#5223946

Noisiv

2016-01-27 17:05

That makes more sense.

it doesn't. its already been explained:

Yeah right..A 549$ card is definitely a mid-range card..Not..There is a category called ''Performance'' and that's where 980/970/1080/1070 etc belong. Titan X/980Ti - High-end GTX980/970 - Performance GTX950/960 - Mid-range Or GM200 - High-end GM204 - Performance GM206 - Mid-range

#5223953

LimitbreakOr

2016-01-27 17:12

Oh dear Zues, nvidia is at it again... First they'll release an overpriced titan and then they'll wait 6 months to release a Ti that is as fast and cheaper than titan... Very shady indeed! I really hope that if amd delivers this round that the herd can start moving away from nvidia.

#5224021

vazup

2016-01-27 18:55

wathever you call it (can be called "entusiast" too) it is still not high end... Just one point the cheapest 980 cost 420 Euro (gainward phantom) and the most expensive 570 Euro (EVGA k!ngp!n)... so it is 50/50

Are you joking? A card that expensive is definitely a high end card just not top of the line.... It is like saying that a 200.000$ car is an average Joe car jsut because there are cars worth even 500.000$ and 1.000.000$... P.S Looking at these comments tells me that people forgot that Titan is also a CHEAP card for computing that also can play games.. For people who work with computing and play games it is a win/win situation because they can save money by not buying 2 different cards.

#5224067

LimitbreakOr

2016-01-27 20:01

P.S Looking at these comments tells me that people forgot that Titan is also a CHEAP card for computing that also can play games.. For people who work with computing and play games it is a win/win situation because they can save money by not buying 2 different cards.

Maybe the original titan that was on big Kepler but that stopped being true with the maxwell titan which lacks double precision.