Neo Cyrus:

it's absolutely hilarious that people here would think that's a reasonable or fair price, by any stretch of the imagination.

Hulk12:

Maybe no PCIe 4.0 support for top- or high-end GPU Ampere because the Intel doesn't announce PCIe 4.0 for desktop in this year. 😉

fantaskarsef:

I still have my doubts to believe this is the gaming card we will see, but more a workstation card. And thus, I don't really expect to see those 8192 cores hit the 3080TI either.

Crazy Joe:

No, that would probably the 3xxx series Titan card. I guess for the TI and lower cards they'll disable some SM's and go with GDDR6 i.s.o HBM2e. Just to save costs on the memory.

Astyanax:

Because you're market ignorant.

-Tj-:

No he is right. The only ignorance is your nv fanboyizm and the need to defend it. 😛

Neo Cyrus:

Even if it's "only" $1000 MSRP, it's absolutely hilarious that people here would think that's a reasonable or fair price, by any stretch of the imagination. In b4 someone comes in talking about how HBM2 costs more than an ocean of virgin blood, that their R&D costs more than 10 billion pure souls, then links to nVidia's ballsack's reddit page stating they pay everyone in their staff and homeless people outside $10K per minute therefore they need to charge insulting amounts. 🙄 I'll drop to 30 fps gaming or buy a console before I pay nVidia's mafia monopoly prices. Or better yet, bust out my backlog of old games. Too bad, I was looking forward to Cyberpunk on PC (no, I won't play it on a console). Guess I'll play that in 2026 or so. I can wait.

-Tj-:

Is that "market ignorant" a new word you like to toss around like your placebos? lol, fail. xD

I think you're making valid points but $115 is an immense difference for the die alone. The costs also don't end there because you need to factor in the cost of validating the die and ensuring that it runs error free at its rated clock speed. All those faulty dies still need to be checked and people are getting paid to do so. Then you need to consider that Ti card uses a 352-bit PCB vs a 256-bit PCB on the 1080. Those are more expensive while you also need 11 memory chips instead of 8 to run on that kind of bus. A single 1GB GDDR6 chip cost ~25$ the last time I checked so the final tally is now possibly a $250 difference on just these three components. It all adds up and we're still only looking at the bill-of-materials side of it. Factor in R&D and the cost of software engineers and those costs quickly start rising. Only, this time, we're not just talking about rasterization but ray-tracing and AI as well. At the risk of seeming insensitive, if you cannot afford a $700 GPU then you can also not afford a $600 GPU. My own utilities bill includes $110 to my ISP and Netflix every single month which means that I'll be spending $2640 over the next two of years on just these two things. The RTX 2080 should easily last me the same amount of time and costing $700 and not $600 is completely meaningless to me. Someone complaining about a $100 increase just tells me that he isn't the person paying for utilities in his house and he shouldn't be spending $600 on a GPU in the first place.

-Tj-:

So ram was more expensive and now it made gpu 50% more expensive.. right..nice trolling.

-Tj-:

Is that "market ignorant" a new word you like to toss around like your placebos? lol, fail. xD

Andrew LB:

The availability and consumer demand of an item dictates the price of said item. Anyone who doesn't understand that concept is "market ignorant" and/or what Bernie Sanders calls, a "democratic socialist"....