NVIDIA Allegedly Moving Ampere to 7nm TSMC in 2021

#5842253

Undying

2020-10-13 17:01

Samsung 8nm was a mistske this just confirms it.

#5842259

k0vasz

2020-10-13 17:12

OMG, what a shit storm this launch is. It's now obvious to nvidia, that it was a mistake to choose Samsung over TSMC, as they just simply can't produce enough chips - not to mention that those wattages are crap as well. So, this means no real 3000s series cards until (probably) early next year 🙁

#5842264

JonasBeckman

2020-10-13 17:23

k0vasz:

OMG, what a crap storm this launch is. It's now obvious to nvidia, that it was a mistake to choose Samsung over TSMC, as they just simply can't produce enough chips - not to mention that those wattages are crap as well. So, this means no real 3000s series cards until (probably) early next year 🙁

Well the existing ones aren't bad but this node switch was unexpected. Wonder if that means the earlier rumors on the Super or Ti variants being on hold could see a return on this node now. This is going to be a bit of a mess too with new stock on a newer node here and how that's going to end up. EDIT: And how these will then perform if this is accurate. Interesting, unexpected move for something I assumed would be done with Hopper if that's not a smaller node still. (Guessing this isn't just the S versions of Ampere either but also the existing and upcoming more VRAM models then.)

#5842271

Syranetic

2020-10-13 17:42

The ultimate dick-swing. My GPU uses 1nm smaller fab than yours! Nananana.

#5842274

AStaUK

2020-10-13 17:48

If this is true, wonder what a 3080Ti with 20GB vRAM on 7nm means for the current 3090, similar performance with less power draw?

#5842275

pharma

2020-10-13 17:48

Well, at least Nvidia and it's competitors will be on the same node. It will be a good test on architectural performance and efficiency.

#5842277

NCC1701D

2020-10-13 17:54

Good reason for people to stop trying to buy the cards they can't get right now anyway.

#5842282

k0vasz

2020-10-13 18:05

Syranetic:

The ultimate dick-swing. My GPU uses 1nm smaller fab than yours! Nananana.

Would be true, if it would be the same manufacturer's node, ie. TSMC 8nm vs TSMC 7nm, but it's two, significantly different node. But I guess the point here is that the number of chips Samsung can provide is nowhere near what nvidia/users want.

#5842284

NightWind

2020-10-13 18:07

Syranetic:

The ultimate dick-swing. My GPU uses 1nm smaller fab than yours! Nananana.

:D

#5842285

moab600

2020-10-13 18:07

AMD has a golden opportunity to strike so hard, i hope the 6900XT will be at least on par with 3080.

#5842286

stereoman

2020-10-13 18:08

So many reasons to cancel my preorder at this point 😕

#5842289

pharma

2020-10-13 18:18

stereoman:

So many reasons to cancel my preorder at this point 😕

Well, that Asus TUF 3080 will definitely be a hard choice to cancel ...

#5842292

isidore

2020-10-13 18:26

lol i was just thinking this past few weeks, how AMD is using all Samsung 8nm for every chip they produce (Consoles, CPU's, GPU's APU's) and how its strange that Ampere is also using the same and how freacking similar the OC potential between AMD CPU's / GPU's and Ampere it is now. Like pretty much shit OC potential. So i was also thinking, man, Samsung just hit the jackpot with these orders...or they are in deep shit cause they cannot keep up with nvidia orders thus the stock issues. And what do you know, TSMC here they come. You know what else is fuck'd up? bet you a 3080 that the 7nm TSMC versions will OC much better then the Samsung 8nm ones?...talked about that for customer care..

#5842295

icedman

2020-10-13 18:30

Supers and Ti's incoming guess ill be waiting a while i want to see what AMD brings this time

#5842296

jura11

2020-10-13 18:31

isidore:

lol i was just thinking this past few weeks, how AMD is using all Samsung 8nm for every chip they produce (Consoles, CPU's, GPU's APU's) and how its strange that Ampere is also using the same and how freacking similar the OC potential between AMD CPU's / GPU's and Ampere it is now. Like pretty much crap OC potential. So i was also thinking, man, Samsung just hit the jackpot with these orders...or they are in deep crap cause they cannot keep up with nvidia orders thus the stock issues. And what do you know, TSMC here they come. You know what else is frack'd up? bet you a 3080 that the 7nm TSMC versions will OC much better then the Samsung 8nm ones?...talked about that for customer care..

AMD is using as their fab TSMC not Samsung, Samsung node using only Nvidia Hope this helps Thanks, Jura

#5842297

Devid

2020-10-13 18:37

isidore:

lol i was just thinking this past few weeks, how AMD is using all Samsung 8nm for every chip they produce (Consoles, CPU's, GPU's APU's) and how its strange that Ampere is also using the same and how freacking similar the OC potential between AMD CPU's / GPU's and Ampere it is now. Like pretty much crap OC potential. So i was also thinking, man, Samsung just hit the jackpot with these orders...or they are in deep crap cause they cannot keep up with nvidia orders thus the stock issues. And what do you know, TSMC here they come. You know what else is frack'd up? bet you a 3080 that the 7nm TSMC versions will OC much better then the Samsung 8nm ones?...talked about that for customer care..

AMD has been using TSMC 7nm for a while now 😎

#5842299

tsunami231

2020-10-13 18:45

should we expect nvidia to jack the prices up some more cause there gona use 7nm?

#5842304

Fender178

2020-10-13 18:55

Hmm this could be a wise move by Nviida considering on how bad the Samsung wafers are.

Syranetic:

The ultimate dick-swing. My GPU uses 1nm smaller fab than yours! Nananana.

You have no idea what you are talking about. There is a big difference between TSMC's 7nm nodes and Samsung's 8nm.

isidore:

lol i was just thinking this past few weeks, how AMD is using all Samsung 8nm for every chip they produce (Consoles, CPU's, GPU's APU's) and how its strange that Ampere is also using the same and how freacking similar the OC potential between AMD CPU's / GPU's and Ampere it is now. Like pretty much crap OC potential. So i was also thinking, man, Samsung just hit the jackpot with these orders...or they are in deep crap cause they cannot keep up with nvidia orders thus the stock issues. And what do you know, TSMC here they come. You know what else is frack'd up? bet you a 3080 that the 7nm TSMC versions will OC much better then the Samsung 8nm ones?...talked about that for customer care..

You are 100% wrong. AMD has been using TSMC's 7nm nodes for sometime now.

tsunami231:

should we expect nvidia to jack the prices up some more cause there gona use 7nm?

I wouldn't think so because Nvidia more or less set the prices as we saw them. If they were to jack up the prices since switching nodes would only alienate customers even more than they already are.

#5842309

EspHack

2020-10-13 19:21

not even billion dollar companies have the long term thinking to try and push the smaller guy before it ends tied to a monopoly and losing many times over what it gained from going with the big guy when it had a reason to compete hopefully samsung has bixby levels of perseverance on this venture, otherwise when china takes over taiwan we might go through silicon dark ages on the west

#5842311

Corbus

2020-10-13 19:21

I kinda don't want a 3080 now even if it was in stock.