NiceHash has a bypass around Lite Hash Rate throttling on nearly all RTX 30 graphics cards.
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looktuc
NBminer fully unlocked LHR 100%. Strange that NVIDIA is silent and does not say anything. the whole world already knows it.
Kaarme
What would they say and why? LHR was just a marketing stunt back then, when gamers were getting majorly frustrated about not being able to get cards. It's the series on store shelves now, but development wise RTX 3000 is already history for Nvidia. They are busy preparing RTX 4000 for launch now.
reix2x
in fact this LHR thing lasted a good time, if you think that this limits the ability to make money of some persons, it is impresive that they didn't fully cracked the first day
schmidtbag
At first I was really surprised that it took so long to crack this. Then I realized that most (but clearly not all) people who invest everything into mining do so because they have no skills to do any real jobs, so, which among them is actually going to do the work?
Part of me wonders if future driver updates may interfere with the crack.
fantaskarsef
Well, I am not sure that the people hacking this aren't the guys who used to hack BIOSs for better results in overclocking, better stock fps etc.
So they might be making an unpaid, "for the sake of us all" thing into a paid job, upping big mining companies' results for cash, e.g. a certain amount of cash for every GPU type they hack for the mining company paying them (if they have a lot of 3060s, they might get something along 50kUSD to lift LHR on 3060s). At least I could imagine that.
Me too, but... why should commercial miners upgrade any drivers? 😀
PPC
Theres a whole industry of very skilled people that setup and maintain the farms. The investors are usually shady af as you said and everything else fits but those guys wouldnt know how to setup 10 pc lan let alone 100+ rig farms. They just hire good people.
Like, you think mining software is made by those shady investors? Hell no, its made by very skilled cs engineers who then profit off it by taking a percentage of all the mining that is happening with their software. The truly popular miners are KILLING IT and they are far from "not being able to do a normal job", they are probably 3x more skilled than us both.
schmidtbag
Right but my point is the investors themselves have no skills, hence them paying other people do all the work for them. Those people don't have to care about working around driver limitations. I'm sure the semi-smart investors might have realized the potential product they could have been purchasing and paid someone to research a workaround to the drivers, hence the article, but it sure took a while.
reix2x
no doubt about people mining like an "investment", but there is people with thousens of cards mining into farms, they work as any serious industry, probably they can pay developers or maybe some gpu industry insiders.
reix2x
i see it like oil industry, probably investors don't know a bit about the enginering side, they know about investing stuff and numbers, oil fracking must have been like the LHR bypass in that industry
DannyD
Great! Just in time for ETH mining shutdown next month.
I gave it a half-assed attempt but didn't manage it, couldn't really care less as ..well you know, mining as we know it will be changing vry soon.
Then it truly will be a hobby, which it always has been for me anyways, spent and enjoyed every BTC i ever earned.
Moonbogg
Gotta get those terribly overpriced 3080Ti to clear off the shelves somehow. Might as well rely on the cryptobros to buy them all up at $1500 each now that LHR is dead.
fantaskarsef
As I am not actively in the topic my question is one of genuine interest, what ETH mining shutdown is happening?
Venix
Hmm if I remember right the flip to proof of stake is delayed yet again .... So after 2023 Xmas most likely I genuine hope I am wrong.
Edit : corrected from proof of ownership to proof of stake since @AuerX had the right term bellow ;p
AuerX
Its about going to proof of stake from proof of work.
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/04/13/ethereum-merge-no-longer-expected-in-june/
At this stage it seems right on track to happen when Star Citizen launches /s
fantaskarsef
Thank you for replying fellow gurus, it is what I expected.
I guess this will not happen. Money > democratic ideas.
And I already had hopes for normalising graphics cards prices and availabilities in the fall.
H83
Nvidia doesn´t care about that, they just want to sell their GPUs.
The lite hash rate trottling was just a marketing stunt, like many said in this forum...
Celcius
The Spice must flow...
Kaarme
How would we know even if the real players with thousands of cards in mining lairs had got the LHR hacked a long time ago? It's not like they would go advertising and distributing the hack to their competitors. Since they are all shady, you might assume someone would sell the secret, but that's hardly assured. If shady people always got their secrets leaked, the police wouldn't really have to do much investigating.
DannyD
Sorry for late reply, didn't want to post from phone at work, yeah i heard it was next month but seems not.
ETH is the coin everyone mines as it pays the best, it's basically responsible for the previous two years of gpu hell.
Once mining it stops prepare for the great gpu flood of 2022 /2023?
schmidtbag
Hmm... very good point. I'm just so used to people who crack stuff like this to just give it all away as soon as they can, but if they're the ones making money off it, then yeah, totally makes sense why they'd wait until it was no longer profitable.
