New Study claims 5G does not pose health risks
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DownwithEA
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It's completely irrelevant what frequencies we use, due to the power that those consumer devices operate. It's like thinking you will get tanned because you sit under your LED UV light keychain. I'd have more concern if for technicians working on directed links, but due to frequencies and the low time, it's not an issue.
Also, UV light is non-ionizing, there simply isn't enough energy in the photon - you are a few orders off with the wavelength. The problem with UV light is that it gets absorbed by either your cornea or your lens. While your cornea can die and regrow in a few days, your lens will become opaque and the effect is commutative.
Backstabak
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Any man made radiation is not healthy.
sunnyp_343
Thats bullshit.I love modern tech butmany modern tech are full of Cancer giving radiation.Thats why cancer has been increasing dramatically over last few decades.
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Yep, no immense pressure here by companies , or any bribes taken.
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NASA goes up to 4 mm wavelength.
But I was not able to find even remotely close values for centimeter wavelengths. That means Sun's energy there is really insignificant and approximately thousand times smaller than those 10mW limits dictated by law.
But maybe you'll have more luck than I had and will find actual value. It would be great.
10mW/h would mean that it would operate at 10mW for a moment and no transmission for rest of the hour. We've got to little error area where you meant 10mWh = basically 10mW operation all the time. What I meant by 100mW is that some manufacturers ignore limits set by law to increase range.
Unfortunately this is false expectation. Certain frequency resonates with entire molecule of given chemical compound. Certain frequency resonates just with particular atom in given molecule. And certain frequency resonates just with electrons. That means that different frequencies have different opportunity to "overload" some particle with energy.
But you kind of wrote it with those 2,45 vs 10 GHz. 10W source at 2,45 GHz would increase temperature of water less in same time as would 10W source going on 10 GHz.
It is like taking 60 GHz which has big energy absorption with O2 and then heating air balloon. Molecules of O2 would heat more than CO2 or nitrogen present in given balloon. Then there would be transmission of energy from collision of molecules inside balloon.
DNA has always same building blocks: adenine, guanine, cytosine, thymine
If something is able to damage those structures in rat, it can damage it in humans. And let's be honest. We are not immune to cancer. And as our cancer is topic, existence of species that are highly resilient to it are not important.
Well. I took it to actual real world values. You'll have to do some work here to confirm or correct. Because:
I did look for graphs/charts showing energy distribution Sun emits at different frequencies. And all basically end around 3 micrometer wavelength as there energy is getting really low.
Issue here is that 2.4GHz (wifi) has wavelength just under 12 cm (hence usual 28~29 mm antena which is 1/4 of wavelength). And that's really, really far away in low energy part of spectrum. Which means that even 40MHz channel of Wifi will receive under mere micro Watts per square meter from Sun even without accounting for atmospheric absorption.
Most of tablesI have seen do not go above 2 mm wavelength. schmidtbag
https://books.google.com/books?id=usqqDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA163&lpg#v=onepage&q&f=false
I know that... did you not see my whole thing about how the building blocks have nothing to do with a species' ability to recover or prevent damage? Even if hypothetically a rat's DNA is equally as prone to damage from electromagnetic radiation, their ability to recover from that damage is not the same.
As we had already established, the sun gives off a wide frequency range of microwave radiation that will have the same warming effects as a wifi radio. Sure, at exactly 2400MHz, the phone has got to emit far more energy per m^2 than the sun (at ground level), but as said before: the frequency itself is not inherently dangerous. The only danger of increased microwave wattage is the fact it will be absorbed as heat. So, the collective microwave radiation from the sun that can be absorbed as heat is most likely higher. If fearing heat is the problem, why is nobody afraid of IR heat? Why does nobody get afraid of their black shirt getting irradiated when it gets hot from a bright white light? Microwaves are less intense, so surely they're not going to be more dangerous than a wide spectrum of energy in the hundreds of THz range. I don't get what the fear is here.
The whole reason we're having this discussion is about whether or not we should be afraid of these frequencies. People hear "radiation" and they immediately think "cancer". The frequencies to be afraid (because of their frequency, not their wattage) of are around 800THz and higher.
Wait a minute... what was I trying to say there? You're very obviously right but now I'm confused by what I meant... Whatever, doesn't really matter much anyway.
Yes, there can be a resonant frequency, but my point is that resonance isn't the reason a molecule heats up: it is whether the molecule absorbs or reflects the wave that determines if it heats up or not. In some cases, molecules can absorb a wavelength and re-emit a lower-energy one (which is why certain things glow under UV light). So having said that, there is a very wide array of frequencies that can heat up water molecules, almost none of which resonate with water. So, those frequencies emitted from the sun collectively will create a lot of heat.
If your point is to say that the resonance is the thing to be worried about, perhaps it is - I don't know. But we both acknowledge the sun doesn't emit enough of whatever frequency is resonant with water (and it isn't 2.45GHz).
According to what? This source for example says 10GHz is more readily absorbed by water:
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