New AMD roadmap gives more insight in polaris 10 and 11
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Fox2232
DP 1.3 => 3840x2160 @ 120Hz = 1920x1080 @ 480Hz.
fantaskarsef
Does look pretty powerful. But just reading Async Compute on that slide makes me cringe...
Bogeyx
So the new Enthusiast cards (including a jump from 28 to 14nm) can do 8,2 Tflops while the current cards can do 8,6 Tflops?? (Fury)
What did i miss?
fantaskarsef
JonasBeckman
Ryu5uzaku
Hmmh I guess I will wait for Vega then for sure 🙂
Fox2232
https://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/inside-pascal/
nVidia built GP100 (610mm^2) as bigger chip than GM200 (601mm^).
On 28 nm, they reached with GM200 250W limit with 8 billion transistors ticking at 948/1114MHz base/boost while equipped with power hungry GDDR5.
on 16nm, they reached with GP100 300W limit with 15.3 billion transistors ticking at 1328/1480MHz base/boost while equipped with power efficient HBM2.
In other words TDP was limit, not achievable clock. And only other reason for lower clock than TDP is that GPU makes errors in calculation on higher clocks. (unacceptable for business grade HW) And that may be for consumer cards much higher. I guess many people here OC their cards by rule of: "I see artifact, so -20MHz and keep it there"
But many of those high OC end up failing in compute tests like GPUPI.
Taking in account power efficiency: 1.9125 more transistors + 40% increased base clock/33% increased turbo clock. And increased total TDP of GPU (around 210 vs 270W).
16nm even on described condition delivers: 2.03 times higher (transistor and clock) to power consumption ratio.
So taking GPU like gtx 980 has, putting it on 16nm it will eat around 1/2 of original power. How high OC can we expect before GPU power consumption matches last generation? 40%? 60%?
Same goes for those announced r9-480(x) chips, unless AMD breaks their design in some way, they'll clock them much higher than those (guesstimated 1GHz what floats around net).
And if they were not able to clock them higher, power consumption would be ridiculously low.
Basically that r9-480x with 2560SP, 160TMU, 64ROPs with proclaimed 800MHz base would fall into sub 100W notebook category. (More like under 80W)
Because Nano is 175W TDP card which ticks around 950~1000MHz depending on airflow and has more transistors than r9-480x.
I think this tells entire story of this particular step from 28 to 14/16nm.
Kaarme
slyphnier
Fox2232
Humanoid_1
I was also expecting much higher clock speeds this time out.
Perhaps AMD want to make good on that Overclockers Dream thing they mentioned a while back lol
Denial
GeniusPr0
That core clock has to be so it can fit in SFFs like the X51, AMD quantum thinget etc...
Kinda annoyed that Pascal 104 will surpass Polaris 10, but whatever.
Noisiv
Noisiv
Valken
waltc3
Koniakki
Ieldra
Aura89