Kaleid:

Precisely. Few here will for instance remember that when Vista was released Nvidia cards caused about 40% of the crashes. There have even been drivers which burn the card up.

https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?quality=85&image_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogcdn.com%2Fwww.engadget.com%2Fmedia%2F2008%2F03%2F3-27-08-vista-crash.jpg&client=amp-blogside-v2&signature=3dec89420c0845069728303fe4db7682eeb4f057 source: https://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/nvidia-drivers-responsible-for-nearly-30-of-vista-crashes-in-20/ Of course Nvidia had a larger GPU market share at the time vs ATI, so they were probably closer in relative terms re driver crashes. Re "drivers which burn the card up", it was one errant driver that was quickly pulled which had a fan controller issue. My card survived it just fine.

alanm:

https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?quality=85&image_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogcdn.com%2Fwww.engadget.com%2Fmedia%2F2008%2F03%2F3-27-08-vista-crash.jpg&client=amp-blogside-v2&signature=3dec89420c0845069728303fe4db7682eeb4f057 source: https://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/nvidia-drivers-responsible-for-nearly-30-of-vista-crashes-in-20/ Of course Nvidia had a larger GPU market share at the time vs ATI, so they were probably closer in relative terms re driver crashes. Re "drivers which burn the card up", it was one errant driver that was quickly pulled which had a fan controller issue. My card survived it just fine.

Microsoft was the cause of 99% of those crashes.

andries:

I have had various ati cards over the years without issues, the incident I experienced with the R9 290 infuriated me to the point I had to spent my money elsewhere. That was the first time in my experience with pc's I had to sell the part to resolve the problem. So yeah, the competition was more expensive, and I never experienced an issues that was not fixable since I decided to switch. I have seen a lot of threads and reports of black screening and it reminded me of my experience with it.

Both companies have had issues with "black screen".... I had a GF5600XT that did it, a 9600GT that did it, a 560Ti that did it. I've also had an HD4850 that did it (reference cooler design failure), an HD7870 that did it and now my FX5700 has been doing it the last week. It's really not as widespread an issue as people are made to believe by forum posts.

mohiuddin:

Could someone find a way to bypass the artificial gpuclock limiter and see how much can these push the clock ?

It would have to be removed at the bios level, give it some time though I'm sure someone will.

vbetts:

It would have to be removed at the bios level, give it some time though I'm sure someone will.

Any link to forum or any site where i could keep myself updated? Coz i am pretty much interested in how much a somehow mature 1st gen 7nm node could clock and also how much can a 5600xt catch up with its big brother rx5700 .... even though i dont plan to buy any of those in near future 😛

mohiuddin:

Could someone find a way to bypass the artificial gpuclock limiter and see how much can these push the clock ?

Looks like it's blocked on driver level, rather then bios, see more information here https://www.igorslab.de/en/radeon-rx-5600-xt-with-new-bios-and-stable-ram-without-flash-instructions-amd-limits-and-benchmark-morepowertool-tutorial/

SpajdrEX:

Looks like it's blocked on driver level, rather then bios, see more information here https://www.igorslab.de/en/radeon-rx-5600-xt-with-new-bios-and-stable-ram-without-flash-instructions-amd-limits-and-benchmark-morepowertool-tutorial/

Pretty sad . Any chance on near future to bypass driver limitations?

alanm:

https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?quality=85&image_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogcdn.com%2Fwww.engadget.com%2Fmedia%2F2008%2F03%2F3-27-08-vista-crash.jpg&client=amp-blogside-v2&signature=3dec89420c0845069728303fe4db7682eeb4f057 source: https://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/nvidia-drivers-responsible-for-nearly-30-of-vista-crashes-in-20/ Of course Nvidia had a larger GPU market share at the time vs ATI, so they were probably closer in relative terms re driver crashes. Re "drivers which burn the card up", it was one errant driver that was quickly pulled which had a fan controller issue. My card survived it just fine.

I remember very clearly reading 40%, but the number is not that important so I won't waste time in looking it up again, point is of course that they all do a bad job from time to time. I had tons of trouble with rx480 when cloning the screen to the TV and then turning it off after the movie and it took AMD something like 6 months to fix it, but now my 5700 works just fine so I'll keep it for at least one more year unless I absolutely need raytracing.

Astyanax:

Microsoft was the cause of 99% of those crashes.

Nah, many simply released crap drivers. I certainly remember for once having major trouble with Creative Labs soundcard drivers, but as I liked XP more than Vista it didn't really matter that much anyway.

Kaleid:

Nah, many simply released crap drivers. I certainly remember for once having major trouble with Creative Labs soundcard drivers, but as I liked XP more than Vista it didn't really matter that much anyway.

And the worst is Creative never really fixed them. I eventually had to install home made drivers by some random guy to stop getting the crackle pop problem with my X-Fi Platinum card under Vista.