MSI and ASrock Haswell Motherboards caught on camera (photos)

#4545641

Chillin

2013-03-06 08:18

Since it offers 6x USB 3, where are they going to be putting the 6x USB 2's?

#4545874

AllTech

2013-03-06 14:18

Two 8 pin connectors for the CPU? What the...

#4545887

Chillin

2013-03-06 14:37

Two 8 pin connectors for the CPU? What the...

Looks like an engineering sample board, the Asrock has only one.

#4546059

sykozis

2013-03-06 17:50

Only a few months left til launch time....

#4546153

-Tj-

2013-03-06 19:04

Apparently the USB3.0 controller has an issue with waking up... Also, the performance figures, clock vs clock to Ivy, isn't all that inspiring. There was a greater benefit going from Sandy to Ivy clock vs clock. The only thing that may make Haswell perform better is AVX2, for programs that can make use of it and support it.

Yes in x87 code it won't be any faster.. In normal use x86, no tests yet, it will be more then SB to IB.. All those new registers and wider engine executions will help a lot.

#4546164

nick0323

2013-03-06 19:17

Since it offers 6x USB 3, where are they going to be putting the 6x USB 2's?

USB3.0 is backwards compatible so why would one need USB 2.0 ?

#4546165

Chillin

2013-03-06 19:19

Apparently the USB3.0 controller has an issue with waking up... Also, the performance figures, clock vs clock to Ivy, isn't all that inspiring. There was a greater benefit going from Sandy to Ivy clock vs clock. The only thing that may make Haswell perform better is AVX2, for programs that can make use of it and support it.

You have to remember where Intel is going with Haswell. Performance is not the key factor these days, power efficiency and low usage in general is the big one. Intel desperately wants to get into Tablets and corner the ultraportable market for good. Haswell is their key into this, just like Silvermont (the new Atom) will be the key for the high end smartphone and low-mid end tablet market. You have to remember what we're stuck with in the tablet market right now, that is CPU performance from 2006 roughly. If Haswell gets into tablets, it will be a completely disruptive product there. It's really impressive to see Inte's "Tick-Tock" juggernaut in action. P.S.- The USB3 thing is all rumors at this point, with no indication from anyone but the original anonymous source that this is an issue. I wouldn't place any emphasis on it till others start saying it as well.

#4546196

-Tj-

2013-03-06 19:58

He draw that conclusion from those leaked x87 superPi benchmarks, all pretty much useless in today's world. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture/6 I mean why would they improve/change so much stuff and there wont be any perf. boost.. It doesnt make any sense, even less to judge it on those 3 leaked benchmarks. 🙂

#4546212

Denial

2013-03-06 20:06

You have to remember where Intel is going with Haswell. Performance is not the key factor these days, power efficiency and low usage in general is the big one. Intel desperately wants to get into Tablets and corner the ultraportable market for good. Haswell is their key into this, just like Silvermont (the new Atom) will be the key for the high end smartphone and low-mid end tablet market. You have to remember what we're stuck with in the tablet market right now, that is CPU performance from 2006 roughly. If Haswell gets into tablets, it will be a completely disruptive product there. It's really impressive to see Inte's "Tick-Tock" juggernaut in action. P.S.- The USB3 thing is all rumors at this point, with no indication from anyone but the original anonymous source that this is an issue. I wouldn't place any emphasis on it till others start saying it as well.

Just to clarify, I agree, but I wouldn't say performance, I'd say CPU performance. They are definitely doubling onboard GPU performance each cycle which is awesome for ultrabooks/tablets and stuff. If Haswell can get total platform power down enough for 8 hours of battery life, ARM is going to have a bad time competing.

He draw that conclusion from those leaked x87 superPi benchmarks, all pretty much useless in today's world. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture/6 I mean why would they improve/change so much stuff and there wont be any perf. boost.. It doesnt make any sense, even less to judge it on those 3 leaked benchmarks. 🙂

Yeah, but even in the Reddit IAMI the Intel engineer said that it was going to be a minimal performance increase, similar to that of Sandy--->Ivy which is about 10-15% clock for clock in general usage.

#4546286

TheDeeGee

2013-03-06 21:39

Pls let there be no delay, i wanna upgrade this summer.

#4546349

vbetts

Moderator

2013-03-06 22:47

Ati crossfire, alright! Wonder if the final products will have the amd crossfire logo on there.

#4546431

FordLynx07

2013-03-07 00:12

I'm getting excited... Just a few more months and iL be replacing my ancient LGA775.

#4546518

sykozis

2013-03-07 02:37

Ati crossfire, alright! Wonder if the final products will have the amd crossfire logo on there.

The logo doesn't really matter. Intel has a license for Crossfire so I expect they'll continue to support it on their mainstream and high-end chipsets.

#4546566

Reddoguk

2013-03-07 05:06

I thought Haswell and these new mobos would be DDR4? Or will that come later? If so why would you get it on release and not wait for ddr4?

#4546572

sykozis

2013-03-07 05:20

Broadwell will be DDR4....and why wait another year? If you have SB or IB, it's not an issue. For those using LGA775 based systems, it doesn't make much sense to hold out for yet another year when the perceivable performance gain from DDR4 will be negligible at best....and unnoticeable at worst.

#4546609

Chillin

2013-03-07 07:20

Broadwell will be DDR4....and why wait another year? If you have SB or IB, it's not an issue. For those using LGA775 based systems, it doesn't make much sense to hold out for yet another year when the perceivable performance gain from DDR4 will be negligible at best....and unnoticeable at worst.

Indeed, I'm updating a family system to a i5-2300, 8gb DDR3-1600, HD 5450 and a Samsung 840 250gb. This should last them quite a while considering their previous system was a Core 2 Duo (lower model).

#4548617

Fender178

2013-03-09 05:42

Broadwell will be DDR4....and why wait another year? If you have SB or IB, it's not an issue. For those using LGA775 based systems, it doesn't make much sense to hold out for yet another year when the perceivable performance gain from DDR4 will be negligible at best....and unnoticeable at worst.

I agree with ya but as a LGA775 user The reason that I am holding out for another year is due to the lack of funds to upgrade with and that is the only reason. Plus Im going to be purchasing a Wii-U console this summer.

#4548628

Chillin

2013-03-09 06:09

I agree with ya but as a LGA775 user The reason that I am holding out for another year is due to the lack of funds to upgrade with and that is the only reason. Plus Im going to be purchasing a Wii-U console this summer.

You might want to think twice about the Wii-U, that console is failing faster than the "Gallopin Gertie".

#4548629

Fender178

2013-03-09 06:11

You might want to think twice about the Wii-U, that console is failing faster than the "Gallopin Gertie".

Thanks for the warning but I am still going to get one.

#4550713

DigitalKilla_FL

2013-03-11 17:55

Thanks for the warning but I am still going to get one.

I had a Wii U and sold it after a week.