Microsoft: why TPM chips are required for Windows 11
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alanm
Astyanax
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its one kernel base for all, tpm will never be an operational blocker for windows 11.
just an installer one designed to gain microsoft money for oem sales.
Alessio1989
what a pile of bullshit by Nadella. A thing is requirements for OEMs and enterprise, another is for personal use upgrade.
sure. Still doesn't make sense for non-OEM/enterprise reserved ISOs to force-check hardare and CPUID beside kernel requirements. People upgrading systems, at least those use laptops for web-browsing and average use or gaming PCs don't care at all using bitlocker, alternative non-password authentification, azure/365 tokens etc.
seth
NO ONE will upgrade his hardware just for a useless upgrade (When i say upgrade its not the TPM module only).
Just stay on windows 10.
PrMinisterGR
nosirrahx
PrMinisterGR
Zooke
KissSh0t
pharma
Good idea as long as it will keep and protect "encrypted keys, user credentials and other confidential data" from Microsoft's data collection services as well.
novv
This is from Wikipedia, about TPM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module
Excerpt:
"TCG has faced resistance to the deployment of this technology in some areas, where some authors see possible uses not specifically related to Trusted Computing, which may raise privacy concerns. The concerns include the abuse of remote validation of software (where the manufacturer—and not the user who owns the computer system—decides what software is allowed to run) and possible ways to follow actions taken by the user being recorded in a database, in a manner that is completely undetectable to the user.
The TrueCrypt disk encryption utility, do not support TPM. The original TrueCrypt developers were of the opinion that the exclusive purpose of the TPM is "to protect against attacks that require the attacker to have administrator privileges, or physical access to the computer". The attacker who has physical or administrative access to a computer can circumvent TPM, e.g., by installing a hardware keystroke logger, by resetting TPM, or by capturing memory contents and retrieving TPM-issued keys. As such, the condemning text goes so far as to claim that TPM is entirely redundant."
Well, now you do understand that absolutely nothing it's free in this world. For some 'new' features you'll give full access to everything you do on a daily basis and that, of course, fully secured and identifiable. So think about twice when you press that upgrade button.
Astyanax
JamesSneed
You don't need an actual TPM chip. If your motherboard supports fTPM that meets the requirement as well. My Asus B550-F passes the MS Windows 11 checker with fTPM flipped on.
Backstabak
Seem kinda weird to argument for regular users to get TPM while referring to data regarding attacks on companies. Most users don't care for it and aren't vulnerable to some outside attacks. They are far more susceptible to regular phishing.
DmitryKo
that superficial 'even/odd version' pattern, but unfortunately, so far it's shaping itself to repeat the Windows Vista and Windows 8 debacles...
This could have been the dialogue between Winsows 11 and macOS 11:
"- This time, I cannot fail! [*THAWK*]
[grumbles] Rakes... my old arch-enemy.
- I thought I was your arch-enemy..."
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Well, vast majority of users ignored Windows 2000, Vista, and 8.x, while Windows XP, 7, and Windows 10 (in recent versions) turned out to be far more popular. I sincerely hope Windows 11 would not follow Reddoguk
Man i'd really like to see the scalpers get done over one of these days. I saw a Gigabyte mobo fTPM 2.0 module and it was £13. Not anymore though but i hope this is resolved and scalpers get stuck with hundreds of these chips. I know it might be illegal but some company needs to stitch the scalpers up. Give them some false infomation about some false shortages of certain product and then watch them get burnt.
TieSKey
tsunami231
I dont want to encrypt my drive.... there is not much point for normal personal to do this for business sure.
Dont my mater my 6700k pass the TPM requirment so long PTT is on but what ever the other CPU requirements are it fails.
I would not buying a module to install windows 11 and have zero interest in rebuild and new pc cause of it prices currently have gona stupid
Gona see if @Astyanax is correct and all this "requirements" that arnt "hard requirements" are removed
Zooke
The real question here is "Does Windows 11 require TPM to function as an OS".
And the answer to that seems to be no.
So you are being forced to have something you don't really want if you want W11. This will sounds familiar to anyone looking to purchase a new GPU recently.
Alessio1989