Mainstream GeForce RTX 4050 6GB Graphics Card Launching in June 2023

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schmidtbag:

Affordable in this context is rather obvious, when the price of the product rapidly outpaces demand and/or capabilities. The purpose of affordability matters tremendously when we're talking about a product you don't need. People don't need a gaming GPU, and if the cost of a gaming GPU by itself is more than a whole gaming console while offering a worse overall experience, the market is going to suffer dramatically. Compare this to the automotive industry for example: some may argue cars are outrageously expensive today, but when you account for inflation, regulations, and added features, cars haven't really got that much more expensive over the past century. Yes, prices have gone up, but even a modern economy car has better performance compared to a sportscar from 50 years ago, and has the technology of a luxury car from 20 years ago. So, there's an actual evolution happening. Demand hasn't subsided, there's a large variety of markets for automobiles, and there's a compelling need for people to have a vehicle. When it comes to GPUs though, we're seeing prices shoot up substantially for a product that is lowering in demand, is primarily used for leisure, and is expected to be better than the last generation (otherwise, might as well just buy the last generation).
There's a lot of things people dont need that they spend thousands on each year, smoking and drinking alcohol, gambling, sex, drugs, there's a huge list of things that cost a fortune but are not essential to life. Affordable is 100% personal, not general.
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AuerX:

What are the 10 most played PC games right now?
You don't need a new GPU to play esports titles unless you are a pro (i.e. you make enough money playing games to not have to work). Most of them can run on decade old hardware or iGPU. And if you need one you should buy used.
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pegasus1:

There's a lot of things people dont need that they spend thousands on each year, smoking and drinking alcohol, gambling, sex, drugs, there's a huge list of things that cost a fortune but are not essential to life. Affordable is 100% personal, not general.
Right and guess what - a lot of those people who do those things are miserable, often living paycheck to paycheck. They actually can't afford to do them, and that's what it means to be fiscally irresponsible: to purchase beyond your means. At this rate, we can assume a 4050 is probably going to cost $400. A fiscally responsible person with an average wage with an average cost of living would never consider that, because it's either: A. More expensive than buying a used 3070, which is probably going to be a better GPU. B. More expensive than a console, which is a complete system that is also more capable. That same person likely have to make sacrifices to buy a higher-end model. Considering a gaming GPU is not a necessary purchase, that sacrifice is not necessary, and therefore, the GPU cannot be afforded. If you have to take out monthly payments for something like a GPU, either there's something truly wrong with the market or you're a little too invested in your hobbies.
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schmidtbag:

Right and guess what - a lot of those people who do those things are miserable, often living paycheck to paycheck. They actually can't afford to do them, and that's what it means to be fiscally irresponsible: to purchase beyond your means. At this rate, we can assume a 4050 is probably going to cost $400. A fiscally responsible person with an average wage with an average cost of living would never consider that, because it's either: A. More expensive than buying a used 3070, which is probably going to be a better GPU. B. More expensive than a console, which is a complete system that is also more capable. That same person likely have to make sacrifices to buy a higher-end model. Considering a gaming GPU is not a necessary purchase, that sacrifice is not necessary, and therefore, the GPU cannot be afforded. If you have to take out monthly payments for something like a GPU, either there's something truly wrong with the market or you're a little too invested in your hobbies.
PC gaming is litterally at the bottom of life's list of essentials, if its to expensive, people need to find a more affordable hobby, or come on PC enthusiast website forums and complain, neither will make a difference to the cost of GPUs though.
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I'll say it again, when a gpu cost more than a 4k capable console people with limited disposable income make the only possible choice.
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I wonder how many people will get that card for the Nvidia's superior rt ....with 6gb v ram they will not even be able to newer tittles to even rise the texture quality over medium let alone open up rt :P I am a bit astonished that the 3050 had 8gb and allegedly the 4050 going to be 6gb.... The pcix8 is fine plenty for that card even.
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These new 6 and 8gb cards will be good for 99%+ of games at 1080p. The problem will of course be price. Lower end cards require low prices. If Nvidia cant do that, they may as well step out of the lower tier market.
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We are going backwards in vram. The 3060 has 12GB. The 4060 only has 8GB. And the 3050 had 8GB. But the 4050 will have only 6GB.
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People dont understand that you need extra vram to use raytracing, 1-2gb on top of what game req. on what settings you set the textures. So when you run out of vram game simply crashes and in others just spill out to system ram and degrade performance overtime. Not even dlss3 can help you with that. 6gb is simply doa in 2023 unless it costs 150$ and you play only Valorant and CS.
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Maybe, maybe not. It's all about optimization, and unfortunately a lot of games are poorly optimized in many ways, including VRAM. TLOU requires 6GB of VRAM for LOW textures that look like PS1 textures On the other hand, we have The Witcher 3, a large open world and great quality textures that don't need 69GB of VRAM for 1080p. Secondly, high VRAM requirements are nothing more than a machine that is supposed to drive the sale of expensive cards. Video games and computer hardware are really one big business that drives each other.
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Martin2603PL:

Secondly, high VRAM requirements are nothing more than a machine that is supposed to drive the sale of expensive cards. Video games and computer hardware are really one big business that drives each other.
In this respect, we're screwed anyway, right? But cards with more VRAM, like the RX 6700 XT/6750XT have 12GB VRAM and are powerful enough to do rasterize gaming at 1440P. Hogwarts Legacy and RE4R have shown us that 8GB isn't ideal for gaming any more, unless you're willing to tone down certain settings to reduce VRAM usage. The RTX 3070 Ti is powerful enough to run RE4R with RT enabled at 1440P (IIR), but Textures cannot be too high as the 8GB VRAM would be insufficient. While DLSS might mitigate VRAM usage, enabling RT would add to VRAM usage...so, it's a damn if you do, damn if you don't situation.
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This card is a bad April Fools joke.
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Undying:

Didnt they look at the currect pc games market? What kinda dumbass thought 6gb on a 96bit bus is fine lol
Nvidia want gamers to upgrade their cards every gen or buy the xx90 card
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That PS5 and Xbox looking more attractive each GPU release... lol
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Hey at least it will be a pretty good video card if your intent is to play video games from over 10 years ago.
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KissSh0t:

Hey at least it will be a pretty good video card if your intent is to play video games from over 10 years ago.
Yeah, and pay $400 for it 😉 Very good GPU, indeed ! Best value !
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wavetrex:

Yeah, and pay $400 for it 😉 Very good GPU, indeed ! Best value !
The game plan here is to wait 2 years for the card to come down in price, that way you can get it for $399 instead.
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It's pretty decent for 1080p gaming - beats my laptop 1080 for about 20%. So it's just about the price.
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Horus-Anhur:

We are going backwards in vram. The 3060 has 12GB. The 4060 only has 8GB. And the 3050 had 8GB. But the 4050 will have only 6GB.
As long as the new GPUs perform better, it doesn't matter.
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Undying:

People dont understand that you need extra vram to use raytracing, 1-2gb on top of what game req. on what settings you set the textures. So when you run out of vram game simply crashes and in others just spill out to system ram and degrade performance overtime. Not even dlss3 can help you with that. 6gb is simply doa in 2023 unless it costs 150$ and you play only Valorant and CS.
How does tech like DLSS effect VRam requirements? I get that it takes the strain off the GPU but what about other tech specs.