Likely only 6-core and 8-core variants of the Ryzen 7000 3D V-Cache CPU will be released.
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RED.Misfit
They will probably release them along the new A620 chipset to bring them with more affordable motherboard. And hopefully more affordable DDR5 prices in Q1/Q2 2023
Ivrogne
Thermal issues, I guess?
Valken
Let's see some leaks or reviews... I can buy it now if it was made available.
Horus-Anhur
Maybe. The more cores, the more power usage.
And that cache is like a blanket over the CPU, keeping some of the heat in.
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Now I wonder how much cache AMD is putting in these.
The 7800X3Dis probably using 96MB of cache like the 5800X3D.
But if the 7600X3D also has 96MB, that would mean more L3 cache per core. There might be games where the 7600X3D would do better than the 7800X3D.
cucaulay malkin
Nice that 7600x3d is getting released not everyone wants to pay for extra cores.
Catspaw
It makes sense.
The product segmentation, I mean.
there are very few people that will buy a 7950X for gaming AND productivity, usually it is one or the other.
Creating another CPU that will sell poorly, and on top of that be expensive to manufacture is not a smart move.
H83
I think that AMD should prioritize making their AM5 platform more affordable instead of thinking about more powerful and expensive Cpus...
cucaulay malkin
That too
Horus-Anhur
That is a good point.
AMD needs to put AM5 boards on the hand of as many costumers as possible, to create a base for future Zen releases.
They would not make as much money now, but would plant the seeds for the future.
fantaskarsef
Good move. Only that they could seriously hurry t f up already.
Kaarme
AMD can drop the prices simply by making the decision. It doesn't take any effort. Thus it has nothing to do with the 3D cache parts, which obviously needed development and manufacturing. They can drop the prices irrespective of the 3D cache models, should they deem it necessary. However, the 3D models may help them beat the Intel offerings, which currently are the gaming kings. There's a portion of the clientele, which is willing to pay to have the best performance, plus it actually matters image and marketing wise who's the current king.
Agonist
7600x3d would be spicy.
Literally about to order a 5800 X 3D just because I don't want to have to buy a new board or ram
bballfreak6
Makes sense. They're intended for gaming so not much point putting them on 12-16 core productivity CPU's.
In regards to AM5 affordability; I was certain that I was just going to pick up a 5900X upgrading from my 3700X but we had a sale recently which dropped the 7700X to AUD499 (~USD333) and that made it really hard to resist. After doing more reading there don't seem to be much practical differences between the B650e and X670e chipsets apart from some I/O stuff. Looking to pick up the ASUS B650e-e which has plenty of ports and PCIe Gen5 anyway (while looking better than lower tier X670e boards) and price wise it's about the same as my X570 Gaming-e when I got it close to launch. Performance improvement should be ~50-60% across the board both gaming and in Photoshop going off HUB so that actually makes it a pretty compelling upgrade for me. DDR5 price still hurts a bit though haha.
Crazy Joe
Since heavy data processing applications also benefit from more L3 cache, I think this is a bit of a misstatement. It's more likely that there is an issue with real estate inside the CPU package than this extra cache not being beneficial for productivity oriented CPU's
bballfreak6
Yea I'm not even going to pretend I am an expert at this hah but I thought part of the problem with the V-cache was the extra heat generated which limited how much the CPU could boost which in turn affected a lot of the productivity stuff?
H83
True but in the end the CPUs are still too expensive, specially against intel´s parts.
And the MBs should also be cheaper.
Personally, i`m thinking about a new CPU and i would like to go with AMD this but a 7600x with a decent board and good DDR5 is going to cost me at least 860€ (325+285+250). If i go with my favourite 7700x, then it`s almost 1.000€...
Or i can continue with Intel and get a 13600KF(also expensive) for 360€, a decent Z690 MB for 160/180€ and use my current DDR4 RAM, setting me up for around 525€.
That`s a very big difference for similar performance.
Of course the Intel solution only works if my current RAM is good enough for the 13600KF.
chispy
+1 This ^ , i also believe it's due to the huge ammount of heat it will bring. This cpus will be the gaming kings 🙂 .
schmidtbag
The 7600X3D better have high clock speeds or else it won't really make sense as a product. By having 2c/4t less than the 7800X3D, I'm not sure it'll demand enough bandwidth to justify the price increase. Remember: this is DDR5, so you can get a lot more bandwidth.
If there was a 7600G3D, that would be pretty great and I could see that being very popular.
Aside from the package space issue that Hilbert mentioned about the 7900 and 7950 not having X3D versions, I think it's also possible that the V-cache on those models might cannibalize sales of high-end workstation parts.
Valken
5800X3D runs on air and keeps up with 12900K.
Just saying these will be total killers on whatever cooling setup!
Alessio1989
yes it runs on air but hotter than the 5800X on same cooling system.
